Nic's Suggestions and Feed back? Thread - Rendroc's WarZone mod for Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30

hey ya I saw what you where doeing with the german para's and Waffen and I think that you should have a mutator so that you can change the multiplayer infantry to your liking in cluding the us regular infantry I hope this mod doesn't die. and also you should make russian in stead of us too like you reckin the consctropt infantry and also add the german para helmat instead of the cap too and color them borwn. then again thats just a seggestion also one more thing could you on multiplayer add even more troops? Also really good work. or also could you change it so youi could play as germans? Again just a seggestion REALLY GOOD WORK! TWO THUMBS UP! SICK

Hey BigSock(Nic?), thanks man.

OK, so changing the German and US uniforms for MP isn't a bad idea. I don't think I would be able to do that Russian uniforms, though, it is a lot of work and wouldn't be good enough without the Russian weapons too.

I was thinking about a way to play as the Germans but I'm not sure how to do it. My original idea was to play the level backwards, where you are a German squad leader leading a counterattack after Baker and Hartsock have completed their missions.

More troops on MP, huh? OK, how many more? Don't you think it will get crowded?

Edited by: Rendroc

well to be honest I will be getting Brothers in arms eib for the pc in about a week and I was loooking at mods for it and Your mod is like well.. the best mod I actuyally ever seen and i mod alot for all my others games and I thought for mp maybe each computer and player could have- well a squyad is six- like 3 squads each so they would be epic and the skirmishes for eib counld you add more players for those too and I'm really glad you responded. The uniform changer would really rock so you could have like us infantry against ss or conscipts or something like that. Also I have one more idea for mp and skirmish you could hange the weaons like light (*smgs,(grease gun and us carbine)carbines) meaduim(regular weapons) and heavy (bars,faljiermgewhers,smgs) you know level. and could you put mgs in multiplayer like on specific spaces. example -nocked over carts,aa guns(sand bags) ,bunkers, and spawn areas. For fun maybe can you skin the rugular infantry helmets as marine's. Still your mod is by far best i've ever seen other that Darkest Hour and garry's mod. still two tghumbs up!:thumbup:

One more thing could you add tanks and bazooka's to mp and skirmihs levels or even just bazooka's. and actually how many men do parcicipate in mp like 30 or something well could you have in all 50 or even 60 it won't get too crowded it'll be more epic and fun. Still really, really good mod.

I take all that bakc about the amout of men how ever how about 40 men? I know its already epic i just love your mod especially the way the smoke grenades work!

Hey how is the uniform changer goin'? I was just wondering beecause it would be awsome to have a army vs Panzer Grenidier battle. and your mod kicks A$$!

BigSock's Big Post:

Tis time for another idea what about - reskinned tanks like infantry but change there coor and have the country's symbol on it? British uk - the french. Speaking of the french what about having a mutator that changes there skins so that there are "Free French Forces" and "Vichy French Forces" That would be awsome but agin first things first you should have the uniform change by the way are you doing programming and is scripting in programming or are they totally different things?

A bunch of other ideas That I think would be awsome but I don't if it is possible or even plausible For a mod that doesn't have like 20 members? it's really cool that myou are doning this mod for this game its one of tose mods for andold very, very good game that still has a community and still has a mod running for it thats not dead there are only like 2 other of those ones like for half life 1 and another one that I can't remember right nowit really kicks ass that yopur doing this man i gots a few more ideas too! This mod is AWSOME!

BigSock099 Apr 10 2010, 11:43pm says:

Also a mutator so you cpould change the regular infantry and the mechinized version too sso if you did have poles and them with meach infantry.

BigSock099 Apr 11 2010, 10:24am replied:

WHar abpout more men on hells highway or even squadfs in multiplayer?

BigSock099 Apr 11 2010, 11:54am replied:

Hey the tanks should be called Assault Mutator but like Light Assault, Assault, Heavy Assault, Meach Assault with the germans with a half track and the americans with a stuart.

BigSock099 Apr 11 2010, 12:01pm replied:

NO! there should be extra tanks like have a squad err... a team and then have the tanks under the AI's control like not your teammeate but the extra men but on single player have them under your control but ijn multiplayer have them under the "extra" control. You know, it would be cool for tanks but we should have a another mutaor like all the othe names but with a number up front for 1 tank or 2 tanks ex- "Light Assualt" 1

BigSock099 Apr 10 2010, 11:34pm says:

One more thing do you remember the german playing err... playing as the germans? I think you just put the uniform changer in sp to so you could have all regular infantry or just german infanry against us. Also first i should ask. Do you know skinning?

If so could you reskin the germans and the us as other country like have german conscpit model reskinned a s french resstane or even french army. Or even have add vehicles and vehicle crewment options and add vehicles like half tracks (as hartsock and 2nd the remenets of second squad had captured german half tracks or ven reskinn some vehicles . The countrys you could do would be umm...., - France The conscripts. Canada (Thier helmets during the invasion were actually like us helmets just slightly direfferent) U.K. paratroopers they were actually alike.
Polish The had us like uniforms just grey and green helmets. Other Counties too

P.S.
I have a reinforcement idea! Do you remember the coloured smoke from the locks mission on singleplayer For the supply drops. Could you have it so that when you have a head count to a setain number you could Thropug a grenade and Suply drop would drop.and renforcments would spawn and maybe if the would just spwan from the beggining of the level and would rush on to the field?

Umm also could you add armor to all leves where youy could fit it? or even Machine Gun Joe and give a Solidier the abilty to carry and .30 from the hip like another gun but also let them eploy like a machine gun on hill the with the tri pod? Ideas are just running out of ama ma head!

BigSock099 Apr 10 2010, 11:41pm replied:

Hi also the mutator for multiplayer would be awsome if you cold add a tank for each side!

BigSock099 Apr 11 2010, 1:11am replied:

I mean Like err.. Coulkd you have 3 mutators for the light one having a 2 stuarts and 1 panzer and a reguar having 1 sherman and 1 panzer also having heavy like 1 m18 aginst 1 stug
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BigSock099 Apr 10 2010, 11:17pm says:

sorry about not replying ealiear my freind came over for like a week.
I mean there over the amout of players should be like doble cuase on singleplayer there epic and last of course for the whole level i mean the multiplatyer last only for like 10 minutes.

also what about paying you? If you want I could look into it. (if you catch my drift) Make an offer and i might see.

I love the mod! Hells Highway would be kick ass! More men i think also what do yuo think about the uniform changer !st things 1st.

-HELLS HIGHWAY-

Edited by: Rendroc

K good you did that too Some of that i was ust coming out of my head but what about the skinning the uniform switcher and the tank as in having two tanks in multiplayer like on shattered wings and ambush at aberien and uhh aid station and maps like that but no tanks on maps like bunkers what about trenches hmm I guess it wouldn't be too bad would it but what about the forest that would be awsome but have it so that you could pick tanks but what is the german light tanks i know the main tank is a panzer but what abnout their ight tanks there tanks destroyer is the stug but what about tanks? uniform reskinning might be too much but it would be cool to have the canaians and the british and the poles (resk9inned us infanty) two tanks would rock. could german armoured infanty be panzer grenidiers by Defualt?

By pick tanks i mean light, regular and tanks destroyers but 2 stuarts aginst 2 panzers how does that end up? what about matching them with 4 stuarts and two panzers?

Because there are stugs and panzers and stuarts and shermans and uhh. m18's righht maybe more i guess?

k 9i got it now by the following -Light 4 stuat's and 2panzer's -Meduim 2 Sherman's and 2 panzer's -Heavy 2 m18's and 2 stug's

What about forget more men and the tanks with thier armoured infantry would be enough especially four the us and the 4 stuarts but the much better germna tanks like in ww2 how the germans had quality over quantity.

1. tanks
2. uniform changer
3. that is cool how it atuomatilccly does the numbering after each time you press enter huh?
4. k thats enough
5. er!!!!!!
6. mmmmmmmmmmm......... k thats enhough now i will shut up! k

Edited by: BigSock099

Tanks are pretty hard to mod in BiA. I'm not a modeler/skinner so changing uniforms and tanks and creating new ones is not possible for me. Even changing helmets is something I haven't figured out how to do yet. Also, tanks need special path nodes to travel on. This means each map must be edited manually, which takes a lot of time.

Some kind of reinforcements or something with colored smoke is interesting, and I started working on MG soldiers but I haven't had time to finish it. Maybe some mortar soldiers in the future as well.

So 10 minutes for multiplayer is too fast? Is it because there are so many soldiers that the match should last longer? I haven't played my mods very much so I want to know your reasons.

Sadly, I won't be modding HH. It's a lot of work and I would have to start from scratch. I have less time than I did when I started these mods; it just wouldn't be possible today.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and complements.

Edited by: Rendroc

I wouldn't mind the more men or the tanks but if you can, can you errr..... ok lets say there are 3/3 of men on the filed can you add like well.... there are two extra squads right as there is one squad that the players are under control so what if you add the double the soliders warzone I have a pretty damn good gaming computer and i was wonering if you could add maybe double the number of men on the field?

Also baooka joe kicks ass because even when he drops his bazooka you can pick it up and it works really good. I like to as soon as i shoot it I go into situation awarness mode and see the rocket before it hits ther german's face you shouild see if you can dio that.

then could you add another tank in single player like on buapt and chatue colombries

hey I also thought about the weapon changer as in you cold reverse the weapons as in germans have american and americans have the germans or if you could reverse the players as in your german like in your idea but you could just reverse it without a back story they do help its just i love the regualr fun. but mroe men please rendroc.

also

err... i mean that the men as in the matches aslo do last till the end its just alot of the mai action is over and there are only a few squads left and I wouldn't mind the action to last longer.

v4.18 has just been uploaded. Go to Sites.google.com if it's not available on moddb.com yet. Please let me know if there are any problems.

CustomWeapons has more modifiers for Damage and Suppression
Added BloodZoneMP for even more AI soldiers in MP
Added ExtendMPTime20_ and ExtendMPTimeInf to modify time for MP games
Added NoLivesMP and MoreLivesMP to modify reinforcements in MP games
Maneuver Under Cover will hold position without firing until ordered
Fixed ending for Buying the Farm when using WarZone

I tried changing the uniforms in MP, but it's more complicated than I thought because they hard-coded the default uniforms into the multiplayer soldiers.

BTW, Bazooka Jo should only drop his weapon when he dies... does he drop it sometimes to fire his pistol? If so, it's a bug. Only regular soldiers should do that. Anyway, I'm glad you like Bazooka Jo.

Edited by: Rendroc

Yes he actually when close to enemy drops his bazooka like when he is alone and germans are "nockin' on his front door" he will drop it to kill then or kill one sometimes then i usually pick it up and use it to kill germans (my way is to save 5 shots for tanks or somethin on the mpas that have em') Also you kick arse! man!

Well I guess if you like that he drops it, then I won't fix it

Edited by: Rendroc

ya its good because he usaully drops it right when i need it for some reason. any ways you sadi that mulktiplayer uniforms are hard coded well i see what it ,means but it would be a damn big project wou8nld't it? well what about mp mg or bazooka mp or the renforcements? could you use the parachutes off the locks mission and use then for dropa aple suplie like onn an infinity ard game namably cheesy? MW2 or ahhhhhh mortor or ven like hellzonemp and it has mgs (like you carry them just like on HH) and mortor teams (that are stationary and just fire from where they spawn from), (they fire where they command ring is positioned and they fire with like a 4m circumfrence) and bazooka teams (mr joe and mr jurgen) mmm........ also do you know a aneas2020? i do!

Hey what if you work with Sgthaarde he is a skinner and create an ass
killer mod (what ver that means) like you nbastard in arms pilot mod.
and he will create more skins and resiatance and stuff (ivialian with
the conscripts or something dn you guys can really do something he has
been working with call of duty 2 for a damn long while adn done
impressive work and what if he does do something? I bet he will do
grteat i sent him an e-mail and even if this does work what if i cvan
find a mapper? eh he? this might be somethin you might like this tell me
what you think also me and my friend can be beta testers if something
comes of it i can also find other people for more work if you want this
to turn huge? I will put this in forums too. k... cya next time man
Cheers! hey also what about if he skin alot youm make ultimate multiplayer? what if i find modler?

k cn't seem to find him anyware ever mind about "Sgthaarde"

Hey mate? how about a mortor or a machine gun crew you know without the fixed machine gun just mobile with it like your fire team has has the mrotars and the machine guns but the allies like bots contoll them? Or the bazooka you just add them to the fire teams but the germans have panzerfaust that has same amount of em that the american has of the bazooka rockets?

Edited by: BigSock099