No More Room in Hell the long awaited Source zombie modification.

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FritzOfTheSS
FritzOfTheSS Mar 17 2013, 12:34am says:

What are they?
Enemies?
Allies?

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warbrand2
warbrand2 Mar 17 2013, 12:39am replied:

from what they have given out so far think it will depend on the map.

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greeneyedgirl927
greeneyedgirl927 Mar 17 2013, 1:58am replied:

If this mod had bandits, they will ALL be hostile to the players.

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Dannydaninja
Dannydaninja Mar 31 2013, 7:07am replied:

did the devs say that or are you just making assumptions >_>

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ACpro38
ACpro38 May 3 2013, 11:59am replied:

good question, I was thinking the same...

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Evanp
Evanp Mar 17 2013, 1:04am says:

No gasmasks?

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 17 2013, 1:15am replied:

Gasmask art is coming later. Not done yet.

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waldo101
waldo101 Mar 17 2013, 1:05am says:

Nice now they just need some aim-points for those M16s and maybe a SAW and there good to go!

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Bluehawk
Bluehawk Mar 17 2013, 3:13am says:

It looks like their ranks are being worn where an SSI should be. Is that just for the player's benefit, so you don't have to squint at their vests? (and so you don't have to research a bunch of damn SSI's?)

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 12:04pm replied:

That is correct, it was done solely for the player's benefit of being able to identify them from a distance.

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Spooboy
Spooboy Mar 21 2013, 12:59pm replied:

Funny because this is like a flashback to my IET experience where my peers would wear those patches on their left ACU sleeve to mark their position in the platoon.

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TeH_n00b_GaMeR
TeH_n00b_GaMeR Mar 17 2013, 4:29am says:

So they are either trying to rescue you or gun you down as infected, map dependent. Sounds pretty awesome.

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greeneyedgirl927
greeneyedgirl927 Mar 17 2013, 5:10am says:

Are there gonna be any zombified National Guards as well?

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Dannydaninja
Dannydaninja Mar 17 2013, 6:40am replied:

That's what I was thinking

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 12:05pm replied:

There will!

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ddrag0n
ddrag0n Mar 17 2013, 5:37am buried:

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I want to play as a soldier, god damn it D:

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DemolitionSteve
DemolitionSteve Mar 17 2013, 3:04pm replied:

You and every other 13 year old looking at these.

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EvilAngel
EvilAngel Mar 17 2013, 5:13pm replied:

I am 19 and i would like to play as the soldiers... so **** you grumpy old ****

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DemolitionSteve
DemolitionSteve Mar 17 2013, 5:20pm replied:

You are 19 and likely fail to realize having NPC soldiers and playermodel soldiers would be very confusing, and playing as soldiers would be very out of place in a mod where you play as the broken, hopeless, regular Joes trying to hang on to life as the world collapses around them.

And calling me a "grumpy old ****" isn't exactly helping you look like you're older than 13.

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EvilAngel
EvilAngel Mar 17 2013, 11:02pm replied:

I don't mean on the same map but it would be interesting to be soldiers with no command trying to survive the apocalypse. yes its designed to be rag tag reg joes but no games make you soldiers.. just saying.
And calling you a grumpy old **** was very, very immature of me.
you grumpy old ****

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DemolitionSteve
DemolitionSteve Mar 18 2013, 11:30am replied:

love you too <3

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 12:05pm replied:

You've kind of stumbled on to something we're already planning...

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ddrag0n
ddrag0n Mar 20 2013, 12:02pm replied:

I'm 20 so I don't know what are you talking about.

I don't get it, why wanting to play as a soldier for once in a god damn zombie game makes me a 13 year old?

There are bizillion games where you play as a generic, broken, hopeless, regular Joes. It gets boring after some time.

Also the already existent characters to choose are so... ugly. Not in the way they're modeled, cause they're gorgeous, but in the art style. I don't want to play as Jive, wearing some damn ugly pink pimp coat. Or Bateman, like some kind of **** Tracy. They only ones that are sort of ok for me are Molotov and Hunter, but barely ok.

Also I don't like playing as a premade character with some kind of personalities (I know that these guys don't have any back story but just by the way they dress you can say something about them), that's why I'd like to play as a soldier. You can't say anything about him, you can't judge him by his uniform, it doesn't have any kind of personality. And because of that it helps with immersion when I as him in the game.

inb4 NMRIH its not a RPG
inb4 "I didn't said you were 13 year old."

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DemolitionSteve
DemolitionSteve Mar 20 2013, 2:13pm buried:

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The fact still remains that having NPC and playermodel soldiers would be confusing. Not to mention how out of place a soldier would look swinging a shovel or a lead pipe because their double-barreled shotgun is out of ammo.

Also if you want to play as a soldier or soldier-like person and kill zombies, refer to these mods:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/zombie-horde
http://www.moddb.com/mods/paranoia
http://www.moddb.com/mods/nazi-zombies-source-2
http://www.moddb.com/mods/reign-of-the-undead-zombies
http://www.moddb.com/mods/zombie-master-black-edition
http://www.moddb.com/mods/zombie-epidemic-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/dynamic-zombie-cooperative-sandbox-features
http://www.moddb.com/mods/7s-zombie-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/umbrella-corporation-hl2-co-op-modification
http://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-apocalypse-mod

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ddrag0n
ddrag0n Mar 21 2013, 7:27am replied:

Really? You're comparing some simple little addons like zombie horde, that doesn't have any kind of immersion what so ever, to this mod?

The only mods I can acknowledge are Paranoia and the one for ArmA II. Not even saying that some of these mods you've listed are either dead or not close to a stable release.

"The fact still remains that having NPC and playermodel soldiers would be confusing."

Then you make them slightly different? Problem resolved.

"Not to mention how out of place a soldier would look swinging a shovel or a lead pipe because their double-barreled shotgun is out of ammo."

So if you were a soldier, and you'd encounter a group survived people, and if were out on ammo, wouldn't you use a double-berreled shotgun, a shovel or a lead pipe to kill some zombies?

I think that many soldiers would do that.

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DemolitionSteve
DemolitionSteve Mar 21 2013, 3:34pm buried:

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Beggars can't be choosers. Move on.

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DrSmitty
DrSmitty Mar 26 2013, 12:27am replied:

I don't think it would hurt to allow people to play as a Hazmat guy either? If not a Soldier, than playing as a Hazmat guy makes some sense. Meant to stop an infection, playing as a guy to stop it.
(I hope that I said this correctly :/)

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DemolitionSteve
DemolitionSteve Mar 31 2013, 9:12am replied:

Understandable.

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Marcho70
Marcho70 Mar 17 2013, 6:42am says:

Can't wait to have them Special forces Airborne guys, the Green berets to be deployed on the infected sectors. This mod/game is kicking more *** every time this gets updated. Good job, men!

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themesmith
themesmith Mar 17 2013, 7:10am says:

The ranks are in the wrong place, but other than that they look pretty good. Will you guys be making M4 Carbines for them to use (M4 carbine, which is semi auto and burst) to be more realistic? (US Army and probably National Guard don't use M16A4, they use the M4)

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 12:07pm replied:

Actually the US Army and USANG *DO* use the M16A4, and they use the M4 as well. It depends on the task and the role of the soldier.

M4 carbine is planned for a later date. The ranks are intentionally in the wrong place so players can see them from a distance.

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l0p
l0p Mar 17 2013, 7:32am buried:

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One white dude? WOW racist, y u no make black dude first? :o

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Doshvok
Doshvok Mar 17 2013, 2:12pm replied:

because they die first! xD

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l0p
l0p Mar 17 2013, 9:02pm replied:

Fair point :p

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Mar 17 2013, 7:42am says:

If you want more realism I would suggest changing the camo name from "ACU" to "UCP" as that is how it's called in the Army or the National Guard. The 2nd LT has the most armour on him so I'm guessing the higher the rank the higher the health and combat abilities?.

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 12:08pm replied:

The ranks are because their AI is based on a command hierarchy. Killing a SSG or a 2LT will cause chaos.

It is only referred to as ACU on the texture files, the player will never see the names ACU, UCP or Multicam anywhere in the game.

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Mar 18 2013, 12:35pm replied:

"Killing a SSG or a 2LT will cause chaos."

In which way? Does it breaks the squad and forces them to flee in every direction negating damage or combat on the way?. Or does it automatically cancels any waypoints that were given them and makes them go defensive?

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 4:39pm replied:

A combination of both! It depends on which rank you take out, but they decrease infantry accuracy, cause lack of coordination, they might flee or try and fend for themselves, or in a last ditch effort they may even try and suicide with a grenade.

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legionostra
legionostra May 6 2013, 5:49am replied:

Realy?That would be awesome!

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maddnesscats
maddnesscats Mar 17 2013, 10:16am says:

I want mai black dude! :(

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 18 2013, 12:08pm replied:

Coming later.

+3 votes     reply to comment
SickBow
SickBow Mar 17 2013, 3:07pm says:

Looking quite attractive. good job character modeler. These guys look like they'll add an interesting dynamic to levels come 1.07 (or whenever implemented).

+4 votes     reply to comment
WaffleAndy
WaffleAndy Mar 17 2013, 3:18pm says:

They look great :D

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Blankimedes
Blankimedes Mar 17 2013, 7:46pm says:

Looks nice and I think that you could also make bandits to make the game a little more... cool, the bandits can like drop their weapons and other stuff when they die.

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HermitBear
HermitBear Mar 18 2013, 6:44pm says:

This must be the second or third NG model for Nmrih now.

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[nmrihdev]-Maxx
[nmrihdev]-Maxx Mar 20 2013, 11:31am replied:

Third, but the only fully complete one

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DBGTfan100
DBGTfan100 Mar 21 2013, 11:57am replied:

It's CODish but better than the old models.

+1 vote     reply to comment
battle19945
battle19945 Mar 20 2013, 9:24am says:

your mod is awesome love it to see that there will come new stuff to it

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morder553
morder553 Mar 20 2013, 1:07pm says:

if i derp around and run into a squad of these ima run like a little gurl since my aim sucks =P

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Markrap2
Markrap2 Mar 25 2013, 11:37am replied:

No Grammar here!

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National Guard NPC art with list of texture subgroups

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