LOUD PROJECT

Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance mod |

Developed over the last 9 years, the LOUD Project is a complete reworking of the core code for Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance. Focusing specifically on improving not only the AI, but overall game performance - LOUD can now easily run games with 5000+ units, at normal speed, on 40k and larger maps. The package includes subsets of many of the most popular mods, adapted specifically for use with the LOUD project, and an entire collection of updated maps specifically marked to optimize performance with the LOUD project.

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maba02
maba02
Jul 5 2023 Anchor

Hello,

Thanks for your mod ! i really love it, unfortunatly it crash very often. I have the gog version of the game (not the beta patched, just the last official release of fa).

I have upload a replay here , it will be deleted after 7 days.


Temp-file.org

The second time i watch the end of this replay (when one of the player game crash at the end), it crash my game too !

Please fix your mod ! i really enjoy it ;) Even in 2023, supreme commander is the best RTS game !

I have try EVERYTHING (compatibility mode etc etc ...) (the forged alliance vanilla works well, it's laggy in big maps but it did not crash)

Have nice days ! ;)

don't know if it's related to same crash of the replay but i found some errors in this log :


info: *AI DEBUG Processing TeamMassPoints for team 3
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) storing 9 Mass Points
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) storing 9 Mass Points
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) storing 9 Mass Points
info: Hooked /lua/factions.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/lua/factions.lua
info: Hooked /lua/factions.lua with /mods/blackopsacus/hook/lua/factions.lua
info: creating high fidelity terrain
info: creating high fidelity water
info: Hooked /lua/ui/game/construction.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/lua/ui/game/construction.lua
info: creating high fidelity terrain
info: creating high fidelity water
info: *AI DEBUG Loading Keymapper
info: *AI DEBUG Loading Hotbuild
info: *AI DEBUG Hotbuild INIT
info: *AI DEBUG MapWaterRatio set to 0.52412444353104
info: *AI DEBUG Launching CheckVictory for "domination"
info: *AI DEBUG Map Water Ratio is 0.52412444353104  Size is 1024  Unit Cap for C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) is 800
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) Start Position is { 558.5, 288.5 }
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) Selected Loud_Main_Small
info: *AI DEBUG Map Water Ratio is 0.52412444353104  Size is 1024  Unit Cap for DeMelt (AI: LOUD) is 800
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) Start Position is { 780.5, 423.5 }
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) Selected Loud_Main_Small
info: *AI DEBUG Map Water Ratio is 0.52412444353104  Size is 1024  Unit Cap for Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) is 800
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) Start Position is { 758.5, 579.5 }
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) Selected Loud_Main_Small
info: *AI DEBUG turning on Enhanced Unit rings
warning: L3R4F is trying to cheat!
warning: L3R4F is trying to cheat!
warning: L3R4F is trying to cheat!
warning: Maba(Loud) is trying to cheat!
warning: Maba(Loud) is trying to cheat!
warning: Maba(Loud) is trying to cheat!
warning: SOLCARLUS is trying to cheat!
warning: SOLCARLUS is trying to cheat!
warning: SOLCARLUS is trying to cheat!
info: Hotbuild --> Loading keydescriptions
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 95534080 bytes at time 480.10000610352
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 95539200 bytes at time 480.10000610352
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 95543296 bytes at time 480.10000610352
info: Hooked /units/uel0208/uel0208_script.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/units/uel0208/uel0208_script.lua
warning: Error resolving cue 'URB2104_Cannon_Electron' in bank 'URSWeapon'
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 10 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 910.36224365234, 42.799999237061, 561.24212646484 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 910.52954101563, 42.799999237061, 561.27215576172 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 910.52954101563, 42.799999237061, 561.27215576172 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 23 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Mass Extractor T1 - 750 - Loop - BuildClose" 1 no safe Amphibious startnode using 92 threat within 200 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 911.14392089844, 42.799999237061, 561.38256835938 } - trying Land
info: Hooked /units/xsl0208/xsl0208_script.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/units/xsl0208/xsl0208_script.lua
warning: Error running OnStopBuild script in Entity urb0102 at 906a3d08: ...d alliance\loud\gamedata\lua.scd\lua\cybranunits.lua(65): Expected a game object. (Did you call with '.' instead of ':'?)
         stack traceback:
         	[C]: ?
         	...d alliance\loud\gamedata\lua.scd\lua\cybranunits.lua(65): in function <...d alliance\loud\gamedata\lua.scd\lua\cybranunits.lua:61>
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) PathFind "Amphib Mass Point Guard" 3 no safe Amphibious startnode using 6.9254679679871 threat within 250 of { <metatable=table: 81C995F0> 670.55285644531, 52.677898406982, 600.69934082031 } - trying Land
warning: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) has no Primary Sea Attack Base
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 102531072 bytes at time 960.10003662109
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 102537216 bytes at time 960.10003662109
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 102544384 bytes at time 960.10003662109
info: *AI DEBUG Commander Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) sounds COMMANDER DISTRESS
info: Hooked /units/url0208/url0208_script.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/units/url0208/url0208_script.lua
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) CDR Dead - CDR Distress deactivated
warning: Error resolving cue 'XSB2305_impact' in bank 'Impacts'
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) Commander Distress DEACTIVATED
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 105580544 bytes at time 1440.0999755859
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 105586688 bytes at time 1440.0999755859
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 105592832 bytes at time 1440.0999755859
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) MEX Guard Load and Transport 95112 Transport2097357 Warping unit 2097291 to transport 
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) MEX Guard Load and Transport 95112 Transport 2097357 Reloading 1 units - reload 2
info: Hooked /units/url0309/url0309_script.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/units/url0309/url0309_script.lua
info: Hooked /units/uel0309/uel0309_script.lua with /mods/brewlan_loud/hook/units/uel0309/uel0309_script.lua
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 108126208 bytes at time 1920.0999755859
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 108132352 bytes at time 1920.0999755859
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 108138496 bytes at time 1920.0999755859
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 116037632 bytes at time 2400.1000976563
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 116043776 bytes at time 2400.1000976563
info: *AI DEBUG Shun-Eoshi (AI: LOUD) reports memory used is 116049920 bytes at time 2400.1000976563
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) REINFORCE_LAND "Reinforce Primary - Indirectfire" got primary land attack base same as source
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) MEX Guard Load and Transport 70924 Transport1048682 Warping unit 1048763 to transport 
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) MEX Guard Load and Transport 70924 Transport 1048682 Reloading 1 units - reload 2
info: *AI DEBUG DeMelt (AI: LOUD) REINFORCE_LAND "Reinforce Primary - Indirectfire" got primary land attack base same as source
info: CWldSession::DoBeat() unknown entity id (0x2ff0036a) supplied in a pose update.
warning: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) has no Primary Sea Attack Base
info: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) REINFORCE_NAVAL "ClearOut TorpedoBombers" got primary sea attack base same as source
warning: *AI DEBUG C@tch22 (AI: LOUD) has no Primary Sea Attack Base
info: *AI DEBUG Abandoned by Player L3R4F
Sprouto
Sprouto
Jul 5 2023 Anchor

Thanks - I'll look at your replay.

The most common cause of frequent crashes is the surround sound bug. While you don't have it, we would need to see the lOG file from the other players, as it's the kind of error which can cascade across multiple users. Your replay terminated normally for me, which is a solid indication that whatever caused the problem, it's not the code itself, nor is it your machine - but likely occurred on one of the other players. To know for sure, I would need the log file from the other players. The surround sound problem is easily visible, as the LOG will be polluted with very frequent SND and XACT messages.

The 2nd most common cause of crashing - Alt-tab.

maba02
maba02
Jul 6 2023 Anchor

Thanks for your help. After many hours try to figure it out i think i have found a fix.

On my setup there is clearly a problem with the vanilla gog version and the loud mod. The vanilla version works well, but i have many crash with loud (can't play some saved games more than 10 min sometimes ).

My fix was to replace the .exe with the version patched by the latest beta patch (just the exe!) and now, i have sometime somes freezes (1-2 sec) but NO CRASH ! ;) the game resume.

I am going to stress it out with large map , 15 AI and 1000 units caps... see if it's ok.

Is there a limit in total amount of units ?
Sprouto
Sprouto
Jul 7 2023 Anchor

Absolutely - while LOUD greatly increases the limit before you encounter significant slowdown, we suggest that the practical limit should be less than 8000 units - in total. That would be 8 AI at 1000 unit cap. Beyond that point, you will likely pop the RAM limit and crash.

I should mention, the GOG version uses an odd memory manager that makes it unlikely that you can reach that limit. The GOG version likes to reserve 1GB of memory, up front, no matter what the map may be. This is more than double what the Steam version will use, and it substantially lowers that limit. Considering the game can only actively use about 2GB of RAM, you can see why this is a problem.
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