History goes here Thread - Company Of Heroes: Afrika mod for Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts

Rage about incorect colour shades, wrong markings and used/ unused units here. Post pictures of anything you want that associates to the battles, maps, vehicle paint jobs and so on.

Perthmilitarymodelling.com Couple of references for the Sherman Mk III

I'm wondering, was the Tiger 1 even in Africa?

Yeah, late in the campaign it fought at kasserine pass and defended tunis IIRC

Like Panzert said.

Wonder if anyone have any good aerial pictures of the El Alamein train station? Need a nice big overview of the train station and the area surrounding it. Ground shots will be ok aswell, so if anyone know where to get such pictures, don't hesitate and post em.

e you mean this, it isnt eactly much to look at
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cant get any panormaical shots sry

Edited by: stukatankkiller

I please with the textures of the BF 109, but here's a pics about the paintig: 25.media.tumblr.com

And will the Panzer 3 look like this? 1.bp.blogspot.com

ehm, Pz2. I's late night here

And some hystory documentary on youtube: Youtube.com

That's just one of the many cammos used. Yes, P2 will look like that and thx for the vid, will make sure to watch it.

Here's another question: Did the Sdkfz 251/17 see any action in Afrika? From what I know it did see quite some action in Italy and after that In eastern front. No info or pics about Africa :/ So if anyone have any books or any other material, could you look it up? Doesn't matter if there were only 10 or 100 all I need is a confirmation if it was used and saw action at all.

Will the Sherman be unlockable rather then available from the start due to the fact it didnt see action till 1942?

Late game powerfull call in. Sort of a match to the Late Panzer 4's.

Magnificant thread bump.

well In my tips, the sherman only appeared quite late in the campaign along with the tiger. When rommel first arrived in africs,he came with only 1 division, which was from europe so they can with only grey camoflage and he was mainly on the defensive. Will their be a campaign?
If there is it should be you command rommels new army and drive the british out of libya until the stalemate and the british is you fight the 2nd battle of el amein and drive the germans to tunisia

The Sherman appeared just in time for the 2nd battle of El Alamein, over 250 were used then iirc and kept growing after that. By the end of the war british had over 17k Shermans. Most of which where M4a1 and M4a2, later the M4a4 and their own converted fireflies.

Even though the Sherman wasn't a match for the P4 ausf. F2 it is a match in the mod for balance reasons.

And I can't speak about a campaign until atleast some of the maps are done. Maybe there will be, maybe not, dunno as of yet.

what, it is a match, why couldn't you make the sherman quite cheap so lots could be made.

but I am still happy there is a campaugn, is it for the wehr and british commonwealth?

It's a match for balance and gameplay reasons. And I didn't say that there will be a campaign. I said maybe, depends on a lot of things.

ok.
I know you g\hate this but how much is finished roughly?

Roughly About 60% Pretty much done with the doctrines, still got some unit coding to do, nearing a playable alpha.

can you make the sherman reasonable but not as good as the panzer IV gbut allow it to be upraded for a balanced sherman

the stuart takes 3 shots to destroy with a tiger armed with the legendary 88!! a panzer faust takes that many shots to destroy a stuart. In real life it took 1 or 2 shots and for balancing why don't you make it 2 shots?

maybe the anwser is in quality for the germans and quantitiy for the allies

think about it, brits have ridicously cheap tanks (that suck unless in numbers) and germans have expensive betetr tanks that can survive in small groups but take more time to produce have limits on how many you can have and are more expensive to maintain

yes but because of 'balance reasons' the 1\massed produced sherman of which alone outnumbered every single german tank available in tunisia around 3 to 1 I think while on the mod they will be as powerful as the rare panzer IV ausf F2 which annoys me that why couldn't be a cheap but not as good tank.

yup, that's why I don't play vanilla or EF,the engine is just ridicolous once you try BoTB blitz or Normandy 44

aidas is it really so hard to try such a balance instead of silly nerfs and buffs for balance reasons ?

crazychameleon wrote: yes but because of 'balance reasons' the 1\massed produced sherman of which alone outnumbered every single german tank available in tunisia around 3 to 1 I think while on the mod they will be as powerful as the rare panzer IV ausf F2 which annoys me that why couldn't be a cheap but not as good tank.

The Sherman won't be buildable. It's a call in just like the Panzer 4. They both will be very similiar and it will essentialy depend on who spots and strikes first. Besides the Sherman and Grant the Brits have no realisticly capable tanks. Would it be fun getting your ass kicked by Panzer 4 and Tiger when the only thing that can damage them is the static slow 17pdr?

stukatankkiller wrote: yup, that's why I don't play vanilla or EF,the engine is just ridicolous once you try BoTB blitz or Normandy 44

aidas is it really so hard to try such a balance instead of silly nerfs and buffs for balance reasons ?

I repeat again, this is not Blitzkrieg, won't include Blitzkriegs damage system, if you want it so bad, you're welcome to adapt Blitzkrieg dmg system to the mod once it's released, endless whining won't change anything. Mods like Botb, Blitz, N44 work because the allies have stuff to counter the germans with. The only real way of playing brits would be to build sim cities like in vcoh and bunker down on sectors slowly turtling away with massive arty wall because the only gun that can do real damage to the german tanks is the 17pdr or rely on endless cheap crusader/sherman spam of doom against tanks and weapons that 1hit kill them. There's no fun or challenge in that. Balance > Gameplay > Realism. Like mentioned in the mod description the damage system will be slightly tweaked but not to ridicilous one shot- kill all as Blitz/Botb/N44.

I do not play blitzkrieg, I know the sherman is a call in but couldn't the crusader easily flank it and pierce its tiny rear and side armour. Are you going to be adding the cromwells flank thing to the crusader? and several 6 pounders managed to destroy a few tigers in tunisia. I do get your point.

If you manage to flank with the Crusader then yes. And flank speed is in.

ok that evens hings out.