how to use debug spawner ?? Thread - S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Chernobyl mod for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat

I'm using Call of Chernobyl V1.4.22, brand new install.
I put -dbg on the command line, so the debug menus work.
The debug window pops up just fine, but I cannot figure out the syntax that 'spawn' is looking for ?!?!
Can anyone advise on this??

According to 'spawn help', the command requires:
spawn s:<section> id:<number> amt:<number> [ optional args ]

So I'm trying to spawn a little ammo, just as a test. I tried
spawn id:ammo_12x70_buck amt:5

also tried:
spawn ammo_12x70_buck 5

In both cases, I get an error:
spawn: Section %s does not exist

I have *no* idea what 'section' refers to ?!?! Can anyone give a clue??
And if possible, could someone just provide an example of a working version of the spawn command?
Thank you for your assistance!

In the menu you select "Spawner" on the right side then there should be a list of item ids and some settings to the right of that

if you want to spawn something in just double click on the id of the item

if you want to change the item category just select the wanted category from the drop down menu above the id list