So we want to bring Team Fortress to AvP2. It shouldn't be too difficult, all of the weapons we need are already in AvP2, and configuring armor and run speeds and whatnot isn't too hard. What we need, however, is input on how this should go down, and modders to make the more difficult things happen, like possibly adding new weapons and more importantly, new GAME MODES, like Capture the Flag or Assault, things that teams do that aren't Team Deathmatch. However, this is AvP2 Fortress, so everything should have an AvP2 twist to it. Like Preds and Aliens on the teams realistically, but not whorishly. No Predator rocket-launcher guys, for example, but a Predator as the Spy, a class that's supposed to cloak and primarily use a knife anyway. -- SMID

Post news Report article RSS Feed We get feedback on the test from 2009-04-19

For this beta, we introduced a new feature, one that we expected to both enforce better teamwork AND cause some grief: delayed spawning.

Posted by Herr_Alien on Apr 21st, 2009

What does that mean?

  • level starts at 12:00:00
  • the spawn moments (except when first joining) are: 12:00:20, 12:00:40, 12:01:00 and so on. 20 seconds in between.
  • if you die, or change class using F1, at 12:00:03, you'll be put in observation mode until clock strikes 12:00:20, that is for 17 seconds.

That works OK in theory. But, what happens in real life is that:

  • because of the inherent server-client delays, the wait time is actually longer. Sometimes significantly longer
  • if the clock is not that well implemented, it can chew up a lot of bandwidth, thus creating lag. For the whole server.

There are solutions for these issues: for the first one, we'll just reduce the wait time, to keep it to reasonable values (under 15 seconds, but long enough to encourage players to stay alive as long as possible). For the second one, we are already working on improving the timer. The work done so far looks promising.
As I mentioned, this feature does have an upside: since players spawn at the same time, attackers can group together and deliver a more coherent blow to the enemy base. Here is a video showing just that:


In this one, Alien Grand Master wreaks havoc in the blue base, while I sneak in to steal the flag.

Now, all that needs to be done is to take care of the downsides of this new feature. As mentioned already, we have started working on it already, so the next test should get a much better feedback.

Until the new beta with the fixed timer comes, you can view all the clips I recorded here:


- Herr_Alien

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Desumilk
Desumilk Apr 21 2009 says:

It's always fun to look at your videos. This mod offers great gameplay.

Though, the music is so annoying...

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Herr_Alien Apr 21 2009 replied:

I take it you're talking about the 'Aliens' music?
Well, yeah, I guess it could be annoying. I'm myself a big Alien fan (most people helping me test this are), so the music fits the map like a glove fits a hand.
It could be annoying for others though, I have to admit that :)

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