Comments - Gipphe

Carmageddon is incapable of making you permanently drunk. All this mod does is swap out your handling.dat file for a modified version, and the handling.dat file contains nothing but physics constants for the vehicles in the game. You might've found a different bug in the game.

Absolutely. At the very least, I'll try to. I have no idea how GTA V will be on computer compared to GTA IV, so I can't promise anything.

Please specify more. Send me the log.log file if possible.

Exactly what do you mean by "sent to the carmageddin files bck and cfg"? Does a new window pop up showing bck and cfg? If so, that is the program asking you to kindly direct it to where GTAIV is installed on your computer, since it was not able to find it through the registry.

Now that you mention it, it might be possible to use it in conjunction with a trainer to re-load the handling.dat file mid-game. I'll look into it, but I can't promise anything.

This is a possible oversight on my part, I believe. The config files and the log.log files are created in the program files directory of the program, which tends to require administrator privileges on at least Vista, but possibly Windows 7 as well. I haven't gotten any reports that this would be an issue until now, and thus just left it as is. I'll fix it when I get home, in two days, and release a patch fixing the issue. A workaround is to run the mod as administrator, and then click "Fix GTA IV" to re-implement the mod.

Have you started Carmageddon at all? If you have, it might be an unprecendented problem with Windows 8 that I forgot about (that I recall might be a problem now...)

Okay, okay. Calm your bananas there, son. In the Carmageddon directory, under Program Files, there is a log file, creatively called "log.log". Open it in a simple text editor (like Notepad) and send its contents to me via a private message (I think it's too large for a comment). Then we'll take it from there.

Hmm... When it says "Corrupt", try clicking "Fix GTAIV" to make it reimplement the Carmageddon Mod files.

At least your comment here is visible to others who suffer from similar symptoms of "momentary idiocy" (trust me, we all have at some point).

eob2000 contacted me about it, to which I replied with a virustotal scan result showing no signs of malicious threats at all. He hasn't said anything since.

Well, if you don't consider having to buy GTA IV if you don't already have it, then yes, it is free. You can download it by clicking the "Download now!" button.

Then why hesitate?! Get GTAIV for just 19,99€ on Steam :D

Nope, you don't. It simply won't do anything if you don't have EFLC installed.

They don't explicitly DO anything by themselves, but they contain values pertaining to how the cars in the game handle in terms of traction, weight, engine power and more.

Thank you very much :P

Yes it does. It works with all versions of GTA IV, in theory. I am unsure about the retail version of EFLC though, as I have been getting reports of the handling.dat files there to be encrypted, strangely enough.

Possibly because it's a program that few other Windows 8 machines have seen before. Avast kept nagging about the mod while I was testing it as well. Might be a similar system on Windows 8. It's malware-free though, as far as I designed it :)

What says that? Your antivirus?

Access denied? Weird. Could you paste the log entry here in a comment or send it to me by PM?

Short story, you can't.

Working on that! It's an issue with 32-bit Windows. You see, I made Carmageddon on a 64-bit machine with 64-bit Python, 64-bit PyQt and 64-bit cx_freeze. It's the cx_freeze that is the main problem at the moment.

Funny thing is, it works both when other players have it and when only you have it. Other players will see the cars behave normally, while the player with Carmageddon Mod will see cars skip about in erratic movements as the Carmageddon Mod player's GTAIV wants the cars to go crazy, is about to make them go crazy, but then syncs with the host, who hasn't Carmageddon Mod, and the cars are temporarily reverted to their server-side position. If the host has Carmageddon Mod installed, on the other hand, the effect is opposite for players without Carmageddon Mod installed. Cars will generally just skip about everywhere, with the occasional flying cars skipping, dropping a few meters, skipping, dropping a few meters, and so on. It doesn't look right, no, not by any means, but the game doesn't crash at least :)

If you mean "make the cars stop being crazy", just run Carmageddon Mod from your Start Menu (or C:\Program Files (x86)\Carmageddon Mod\ if you unticked the option to add it to your Start Menu), and click "Toggle GTAIV" or "Toggle EFLC" (depending on which one you want to turn off).

If you want to completely remove Carmageddon Mod from your computer, go into your Start Menu and select "Uninstall Carmageddon Mod" under the Carmageddon Mod folder there. Alternatively, you can go into the Control Panel, then Programs and Features (Win7) or Add/Remove Programs (WinXP) and uninstall Carmageddon Mod from there. As a last ditch resort, if Caramgeddon Mod doesn't show up any of those places, go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Carmageddon Mod\ and run the Uninstaller there. And viola! Gone!

Still working on it... It just doesn't want to work out properly for me. I'll try an alternative to cx_freeze, PyInstaller. cx_freeze does something with the executable that makes it unable to run properly.

I named it after what everyone called the phenomenon that occurs when setting the wbias to negative values. Would it be more applicable if I called it "Carnado"? Carpocalypse is alas also trademarked by Stainless Games, I'm afraid, so that's out of the question.

I am working on a 32-bit compatible version. It is surprisingly hard, for some reason.

Stop being ignorant. Thanks.

Mr.Deviance bears a strong point here. The result of modifying the handling.dat file to produce the effect that this mod carries has been called Carmageddon in the GTAIV community since the game first came out, and as such I found it self-explanatory to name the mod, which is merely a way to simplify the implementation of the "cars going crazy"-effect (in lack of a better term), Carmageddon as well. I grew worried over possible cease and desist orders, or even legal action, should the mod have gained enough popularity to attract Stainless Games' attention, so I changed the name to the uncreative name "CarE" back in 2010 (I think... It's been some time). I then realized there are indeed TONS of mods who have used registered trademarks in their names; some utilize the name of the game they're a modification of (Amazons: Total War - Refulgent (Rome: Total War), Third Age - Total War (Medieval II: Total War: KLingdons), Tiberium Essence (C&C3: Tiberium Wars) and Brütal Doom (Doom) to name a few) and some that use other registered trademarks in their names (Macross Wars (Distant Worlds), Contra (C&C Generals: Zero Hour), Star Wars Conquest (Mount & Blade) and Marvel Avengers (GTA: San Andreas) to name a few). There are myriads of mods that do this, and the modding community would be dead by now had it not been for the fact that suing modders for copyright infringement because of unlicensed usage of trademarks. I won't say that we have any RIGHT do do what we do, the modders, and if Stainless Games feels my use of the name "Carmageddon", because of public popularity, is damaging to their Carmageddon IP I would very much like them to tell me so, either through a Cease and Desist order or through a friendly mail. Legal action towards me and the mod would most likely be fruitless though, as the mod does not have enough popularity to be considered "damaging", and it is not a commercial product.

This has everything that has to do with the Carmageddon mod for GTAIV, not the Carmageddon game from back in 1997, as stated in the page summary of this mod. And no, this is without the use of cheats. This mod is made possible with tampering the parameters for each car make.

Oh crap! I forgot all about the notorious 32-bit 64-bit incompatibilities... I'll get to that right now.