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SlayerX3
SlayerX3 - - 2,448 comments

Wait, the most expensive ?

No offense, but I'm impressed the americans aren't holding this title.

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Jkl22d Author
Jkl22d - - 687 comments

I think from what ive seen in several sources it ranged from 8.9-9.2 million dollers for one K-2. While one M1a2 costs somewhere between 5-6 million dollers.

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m1a1driver
m1a1driver - - 16 comments

our tanks are expensive becasue they kick absolute ***. explains why t-72s are cheap.

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codeblue666
codeblue666 - - 272 comments

not yet at least

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Phenixtri
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

Its due to the fact that the Koreans are way way ahead of us & everyone else when it comes to electronics. This is a double edged sword as it offers many advantages but one well placed atmospheric nuclear EMP or artificial EMP burst can easily fry those electronics & in the middle of combat that can pretty much screw them over.

As for this tank I truly hope its has some sort of composite lead EMP shielding to counter that threat.

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ediko
ediko - - 66 comments

Every modern tank relies on electronics massively. And I doubt they lack the backup manual controls to make them at least partially operational like the ww2 tanks. The reasons why it's so expensive sure is because of the electronics, but that's really not a drawback since it's the same with every tank nowadays.

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The_Integral
The_Integral - - 217 comments

Not to mention the only way to create an EMP of any size is with a nuke, and once nukes start flying around it's pretty much over anyways.

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Phenixtri
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

No there are other ways of creating EMPs. Linear Accelerators do this quite well and its also the reason its such a pain in the *** to measure their projectiles velocity -_-

Overloading large capacitors can also produce a small EMP. And again This is not SiFi its science fact. We are learning more and more about electrical theory everyday along with new previously unknown phenomenon & uses for them.

Linear Accelerators are also pretty much the AT guns of the near future. Their projectiles are also capable of carrying a significant electro magnetic field around them when in flight so even if they don't penetrate they can potentially short circuit electronics.

My point is that its not a draw back with today's weaponry & equipment but you have to think of the possibilities 10-20 years down the road. Technology evolves at a rapid pace so it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

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nimrod123
nimrod123 - - 99 comments

got to agree, as the infantry are moving towards electronic as well, so in 10-20 all sections will get done over if they are not hardened

by the way, is this a mod of a abrams (M1a2)?

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ediko
ediko - - 66 comments

Even so, every tank is affected by it, black panther isn't an exception or a special case. When it works, it will work better than others, when it won't it will be like the rest, as I said, it's not a drawback. If these EMP's start hitting, everyone will be affected, not only tanks, even infantry will loose some equipment.

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ - - 4,719 comments

we are far from having EMP weapons in combat situations, because of the immense power needed. Seriously not even thunder storms produce EMP fields intense enough to fry electronics (if they are designed for it) your everyday TV is another matter...

But seriously, how are we gonna get more electricity then New York uses per day (or whatever) in a combat situation in the near future?

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Phenixtri
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

A Hydrogen based small plasma generator producing approximately 120-220 volts AC connected to a rotary Tesla coil can produce enough power capable of exceeding well over a million volts. Mine can produce about 550,000 volts as it is and it was built using scrape materials in my garage. >> I'm trying to perfect one to power my own home with free electricity.

If you are interested in my little project feel free to PM me for more in depth details on how the system is going to work. :)

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ediko
ediko - - 66 comments

Did you warn your neighbors that you have a hydrogen bomb in your garage? Joking of course, but it still sounds dangerous lol.

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ - - 4,719 comments

...point was that you need power. enerigy. not volta

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Phenixtri
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

xD no they don't xD but yea a plasma based reactor might do it tho mine is being built with the sole purpose of providing my house with free electricity almost indefinitely. But still it dosent hurt to add some lead into that composite armor for preventions sake.

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SlayerX3
SlayerX3 - - 2,448 comments

There are several reasons why you don't want to put particle accelerators to serve as Anti-tank weaponry on other tanks.

First they require a shitload of power, enough to power a small to medium town if you want the beam to go anywhere with enough density.

Second there are two ways to create particle beams, one is using a circular rings to accelerate the particles to relativistic speed, and those use really powerful magnets cooled to nearly 0.1 K (which is near to the absolute zero).
The other method is using linear accelerators, the problem with those is that you need a really long straight path and really powerful magnets to accelerate the beam to relativistic speeds.

Both require a massive power plant, capacitors, magnets and materials that can be easily damaged and are hard to repair if broken.

The third is simple there is a law called the Inverse square law, which means you loose the energy the further it goes, and it is an inverse exponential curve, and that means only one thing: the energy will disperse FAST. for example an beam with initial energy of 100 will have 100 after 1 meter, 25 after 2 meters, 6.25 after 4 meters.

And if it isn't a neutral beam, well it won't go much further before the particles repel each other. If it is a neutral beam you'll still need a shitload of power to accelerate them.

Added to third there is also the atmosphere and the blooming issues, that manage to scatter the beam, contaminate the accelerators with dirt and other particles that will damage the accelerator. Which is the reason why the LHC tubes are sealed in a near perfect vacuum.

And why spend so much money on an ineffective way to disable a tank, that won't even work turn it into a flaming wreck, when there are other chemical cannons and AT missiles that can do the same better and cheaper ?

Plus we will see Gauss and Railguns long before Particle cannons are viable for warfare and not research.

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UkrainianPride
UkrainianPride - - 20 comments

looks interesting

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Urdnot669
Urdnot669 - - 545 comments

But how does it do in live combat and can they produce enough of them to make a difference in the first place?

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MBT of the South Korean Army in use with the K-1 tank, it is currently listed as the most expensive tank in the world.