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Phenixtri Author
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

10TP specs.

Armament one 37 mm wz.37 Bofors gun and two 7.92 mm wz.30 machine guns (to be replaced with 47 mm AT-gun and air-cooled Model C MGs on production models)

Crew 4
Weight (combat?) 12.8 t

Length 5.4 m
Width 2.55 m
Height 2.2 m
Ground clearance 0.4 cm
Track's width about 0.35 m
Distance between tracks' centres about 2.24 m
Track ground length about 3.34 m

Max. speed on tracks 50-56 km/h
Max. speed on wheels 75 km/h
Road / off-road range 210 / 130 km (in fact smaller)
Fuel consumption 110-150 l/100 km
Weight to power ratio 16.4 HP/ton
Ground pressure 0.47 kg/cm² (on tracks)
Max. steepness 37°
Crossing ditches 220 cm
Fording depth 100 cm

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CommanderDef
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Very different outcome, you mean one day more? :)

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Phenixtri Author
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

well we would have had a better chance of stalling the Soviets while we fell back to the Romanian bridgehead ... based off of my estimates the war would have dragged on well into Dec. 1939 - Jan. 1940 as the UK & France were supposed reinforce and resupply us via Romania.

Moral of the story never rely on western powers as they will almost always abandon you for their own self interests :/

Tho this plan never had a chance of happening seeing as our own Gov. at the time hindered development of next gen weapons. All I could find about them is a so called special commission that more often than not was responsible for shutting down said projects be they tanks, aircraft, artillery, & even small arms development.

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef - - 3,097 comments

'Moral of the story never rely on western powers as they will almost always abandon you for their own self interests :/' - I'm Czech, Munich agreement... And if that agreement was also in that alternate history, you would be crushed anyway, since Germans took all our tech.

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Phenixtri Author
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

yea your guys tanks were pretty badass for the time and you had the ability to make many more of them. Tis a shame the Polish and Czech Governments never made an alliance back in the day.

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CommanderDef
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Last time polish wanted to ally something from us, Těšín, they got *** kicked... That time Czechoslovakia had friends, but there were enemies all around the borders.

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M4rked1
M4rked1 - - 900 comments

Poland sadly had no chance between Hitler and Stalin both pushing in from both sides, the Germans had a better air force and Stalin had rivers of soldiers and tons of armor.

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Dead|Wing
Dead|Wing - - 3,063 comments

Still better than a cavalry charge against an armored division.

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Phenixtri Author
Phenixtri - - 3,414 comments

dam im surprised that old piece of Nazi propaganda is still floating around 0_o

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Dead|Wing
Dead|Wing - - 3,063 comments

Ha, I read that a long time ago in some magazines (Purnell's History of the Second World War). Just "researched" that Polish cavalry charge on Wikipedia and it appears that it's a load of rubbish. My apologies for perpetrating that misinformation.

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had these prototypes been mass produced the course of the war may have had a very different outcome.

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