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The tank had a classic layout, with a rear drive. In front there was a driver's compartment, not separated from a combat compartment, which had a turret upon it. An engine compartment was at the rear, with a longitudinal engine. The crew was four. In front there was a driver's seat on the left, and a machine gunner's post on the right. A commander and gunner had their stations in the turret, on seats turning with the turret. A forward hull plate was sloped, but its profile was spoilt by a machine gun housing and two side cases of unclear purpose. The water-cooled hull machine gun was mounted in a big housing, and it had a heavy-looking armoured mantlet and armoured water radiator (in next tank designs it was expected to fit new air-cooled machine guns). A two-part driver's hatch was in a front slanted plate. Hull sides were vertical. Rear plate above the engine was quite slanted. The turret had a one-part hatch in the roof, and a rear niche for a radio or ammunition. In turrets' sides there were vision slots and pistol loopholes. The commander had a reversible observation periscope wz.34 in the turret's roof.
Crew 4
Weight (combat?) 12.8 t
Length 5.4 m
Width 2.55 m
Height 2.2 m
Ground clearance 0.4 cm
Track's width about 0.35 m
Distance between tracks' centres about 2.24 m
Track ground length about 3.34 m
Max. speed on tracks 50-56 km/h
Max. speed on wheels 75 km/h
Road / off-road range 210 / 130 km (in fact smaller)
Fuel consumption 110-150 l/100 km
Weight to power ratio 16.4 HP/ton
Ground pressure 0.47 kg/cm² (on tracks)
Max. steepness 37°
Crossing ditches 220 cm
Fording depth 100 cm
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The armament was one 37 mm anti-tank gun wz. 37 Bofors and 7.92 mm wz. 30 coaxial water-cooled machine gun in a common armoured cover in the turret, in addition to a hull-mounted 7.92 mm wz.30 MG. A turret traverse was 360°, manual, mechanical. A gun elevation was from -10° to + 20°. Ammunition: 80 gun rounds (APHE and HE) and 4500 MG rounds. The turret weapons had a telescopic sight and periscopic sight.
The armour was made of riveted and welded rolled plates. Thickness: hull front, sides, back: 20 mm, bottom and top: 8 mm, turret front and sides: 16 mm.
Engine - petrol 4-stroke V12 American la France, displacement: 12,358 cm³, catalogue output: 240 HP, actual output at 2800 rpm: 210 HP, water-cooled. There were probably two radiators on both sides of the engine, like in the 7TP tank, with inlet holes in an upper plate and outlet holes in an upper rear slanted plate. Capacity of fuel tanks was 130 l.
Transmission and steering - dry multi-disc main clutch, mechanical gearbox, 4 forward gears, 1 reverse gear. Hydraulically-controlled side clutches with drum brakes, mechanical final drives transmitting power to drive sprockets and the last pair of the roadwheels. The gear powering rear wheels was inside its rocking arm.
Chassis - 4 pairs of big double roadwheels with rubber rims, sprung independently on rocking arms and vertical helical springs with tension adjustment (the springs of the front pair of wheels were horizontal). Drive sprocket was in the rear, idler in the front. The front pair of roadwheels was steerable, on swivel axles. The second pairs of wheels was hydraulically lifting up for driving without tracks. Single-pin, single-spur metal tracks, each made of 65-67 links, link width approx. 350 mm, pitch approx. 170 mm, length of track on the ground approx. 334 cm, track approx. 224 cm. When dismounted, the tracks were put onto fenders and fixed with stripes.
Electric installation - 12 V single-wire, generator 300W, battery 120 Ah. A projected communication means were N2C radio in a turret niche and an intercom.
Nice one mate ;)) Poland FTW! ;))
Model ownz :D Poland as well xD
Too bad that Poland had little of any tanks or aircraft but if they were, they were better than German :P
No we had plenty & they were of the same quality as the Germans ones aside form a few select weapons like the WZ.35 AT rifle, Vickers E, & 7TP tanks that could own any tank the the Germans & Sovoets had at the time but they were in limited numbers.
What broke polands deffence was the Soviets suprise attack on Poland on its Eastern borders. This was not expected as who would have thought the the Soviets & Nazis would work togeather when they hated each others ideology.
On another note if the Germans had waited till 1940 like some of their generals wanted to do then they would have had deal with this beast in the field >:3
Also the other render of the front of this tank is further down the image gallery IE 6 pics.
Of course, it wouldn't have saved poland. The Germans would have had more time to assemble a greater force.
On a side not it looks like a combination of the BT-7 and the 38t.
note* gdfgd
Obviously Poland could not win a 2 front war aginst both Germany & USSR its literaly impossible to do. Poland was geared to fight off Germany & bog down the majority of their forces like they did in 1939 via the Romanian Bridgehead while French & British forces steam rolled over Germanys Eastern border. This never happaned since again against all logical thought at that time the Soviets & Nazis both worked togeather.
Thus when USSR attacked Poland without declairing war broke Polands deffensive lines & cut off the Romanian Bridgehead were UK ships were waiting to resuply Poland with tanks, guns, ammo, medical supplies, & advanced war planes like the Hawker Hiricains. Poland also failed due to the fact that some idiot French & British politicians failed to mobalize any of their armed forces at the out break of the war on September 1st untill the end of the campaign & the time perioud became known as the phoney war & Polands allies left her out to the wolfs metephoricly speaking.
Out of curiousity, are you actually living in Poland? Obviously you're from there, but your profile says united states.
I curently live in the US & have been my whole life however my parents & sister are from Wroclaw Poland & they taught me how to speak Polish among other things.
& yes I have been to Poland about 5 years ago & stayed in Wroclaw for 3 months & Warsaw for about a month. I also hold dual citizenship & am loyal to both countries.
Tho let it be known I hate both countries governments due to their inherant coruption >>
So u know Poland was beaten by germany before russia even attacked so please look germany owned polond badly ok BUT Polond also slaughterd the russians almost as bad as the germans did i will agree that the polish gave the russians a hell of a fight and caused them immense causilties
Poland only lost to Germany due to the Russians surprise attack & that attack ruined Poland's last line of defense the Romanian Bridgehead. Again the only real advantages that the Germans had was air superiority (their planes could fly higher than ours) & that they attacked from 3 sides of our borders via East Prussia, East German border, & North Eastern borders of Czechoslovakia which they annexed like Austria (tho Czech partisans started to resist at that point so it wasn't so easy as with Austria)
That said im not saying that Poland could have won with Germany as her intent was to stall them in a bloody quagmire if not fight them to a stalemate while the French & UK Commonwealth forces surged across Germany's Western border for the killing blow so to speak.
The only reason the Soviets had such high casualties is due to the fact that Stalin's purges decimated the Russian officer corps leaving very few experienced officers to properly lead their forces.
& again no one expected that the Soviets & Nazis would work together due to the fact that their ideologies were exact opposites. therefore Poland was not prepared for a 2 front war & even if they were the outcome is still quite bleak. No nation in modern (late 1800s onward) history has ever survived a 2 front total war ... ever.
I have to disagree with your 2 front war issue the israeli's have won wars against the syrians and egyptians multiple times. Both executing simultaneous attacks from different directions.
with massive air & arms support from the US >> That & we also gave the war materials in abundance along with blueprints of foreign made weapons like the French Mirage 3 fighter which gave them a definite edge.
Poland was to be supplied in a similar manner by France & primarily the UK again via that Romanian Bridge head which the Soviets cut off. The Israeli's were getting their supplies directly from their sea ports which were protected by a US carrier group.
But I did sound misleading & for that I am sorry I meant that no nation has ever survived a 2 front war on its own relying on its own resources. Although I suspect that Russia would be capable of such a feat today due to the fact that their territory is so vast & has an abundance of raw resources that they can draw upon.
I like it. It should pop up in WoT seeing as almost half of the tech trees are unfinished prototypes anyways.