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cordenand
cordenand Dec 30 2012, 6:52am says:

128mm of doom

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ Dec 30 2012, 12:40pm replied:

Yeah! Except the 88mm for the KT was already the best gun in WWII with better penetration then this crap ;)

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Dec 30 2012, 3:04pm replied:

can you give a source on the gun info, or did WG lie to me :'(

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teslaptak
teslaptak Dec 30 2012, 5:49pm replied: Online

the real KT gun is stock one

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Dec 30 2012, 6:10pm replied:

yes I know that...and in WoT the 108mm is better than the 88 is it not ?

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ Dec 30 2012, 6:40pm replied:

I don't know how it is in WoT (I only got my Luchs :3 ), I do know they don't care about realism or historical accuracy as stated by themselves. They just want a semi-balanced game.

About my sources, I don't know them, however I don't see any reason to justify them against the ingame stats of any arcade game (not my words, but WGs). It is however common knowledge among tank lovers that the 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 had the most penetration of all tank (and tank destroyers) guns in WWII :P

But yes... the 128 did had lower penetration drop-off and was superior at what, 2000 meters or something like that. Not a fair trade for the decreased rate of fire, considering the 88 did short work of everything the enemy threw at it.

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aidas2
aidas2 Dec 31 2012, 5:03am replied:

You shouldn't be comparing tanks through wot, the game is retarded.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Dec 31 2012, 5:23am replied:

aidas not really :P

and as far as comparing stats goes I know WG tends to make things up for balance sake, but they usually use try and use the real gun stats with slight changes

while I know the 128mm gun isn't as powerful as they make it up to be in WoT, I find it hard to believe that a gun which is longer and has a higher caliber and fires a heavier shell is weaker than the 88mm

I think I've read somewhere that the 88mm was the most accurate ? (or maybe it was the panther's gun) and that the 128mm was the most powerful. So I would really like to see a source of somekind, I want to learn :D

and aidas, as far as realism goes CoH isn't the most realistic combat game out there now is it ? ;P(unless you're using mods of course)

have a happy new year everyone :D

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cordenand
cordenand Dec 31 2012, 11:58am replied:

the 128mm is bigger than the 88mm, also it uses a bigger charge/case (more gun powder to launch the shell?) plus its the new flak cannon they used in flak towers converted for an armored body sounds familiar? i read it can kill any tank the allies had out of its guns effective range.

ps.gona try to find the links in my crowded as hell book marks lol

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cordenand
cordenand Dec 31 2012, 12:24pm replied:

its the pak 44 128mm

En.wikipedia.org

En.wikipedia.org

Lemairesoft.sytes.net:1945

En.wikipedia.org (read the Design and combat history parts)

Wwiivehicles.com

i have more links but not gona dig more into my fire fox ocen of bookmarks lol.

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cordenand
cordenand Dec 31 2012, 12:50pm replied:

sorry never mind

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ Dec 31 2012, 1:13pm replied:

Guess what, so could the 88mm Pak 43.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Dec 31 2012, 1:32pm replied:

yes, but we still haven't figured out what had the better stats XD

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cordenand
cordenand Dec 31 2012, 4:47pm replied:

the 128mm could use 2 types of charges the anti tank rule used the heavy charge it had 2 loaders to load the shell and the 2 charges it had longer range than the 88 plus in one of the links it is said a sherman was lit on fire with only HE lol.

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ Dec 31 2012, 5:17pm replied:

The pak43 is said to be better at close range, while the Pak44 definatly got better stats at 1000 meters, probably at 500 meters to, although Pak43 got better accuracy and a lot...A LOT higher RoF.

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cordenand
cordenand Dec 31 2012, 5:29pm replied:

true, the 128mm is a long range murder while the 88mm is good at both i was not saying the pak43 is bad or anything its good the thing i just think the pak44 is sorta looked down upon because its not as famous.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Jan 1 2013, 10:41am replied:

indeed the 88 is far more useful and besides they could both kill everything the allies could throw at them

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☭SgtMajorGunfighter☭
☭SgtMajorGunfighter☭ Jan 3 2013, 6:22am replied:

If you want a gun of doom, check out the small one on the SturmTiger!

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morder553
morder553 Jan 3 2013, 1:17am says:

i feel sorry for the ones that meet this beast in a sherman

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Jagdtiger ("Hunting Tiger") is the common name of a German heavy tank destroyer of World War II. The official German designation was Panzerjäger Tiger Ausf. B as it was based on a lengthened Tiger II chassis. The ordnance inventory designation was Sd. Kfz. 186. The Jagdtiger was the heaviest armored fighting vehicle operationally used during World War II. The vehicle carried a 128 mm PaK 44 L/55 main gun, capable of out-ranging and defeating any fielded Allied tank. It saw service in small numbers from late 1944 to the end of the war on both the Western and Eastern Front. Tiger ace Otto Carius commanded a company of Jagdtigers. His post-war memoir provides a rare combat history of the Jagdtigers which had been under his command. Although 150 were ordered, only between 77 to 88 were produced. Due to an excessive weight the Jagdtiger was continuously plagued with mechanical problems. Today, three Jagdtigers survive in museums.

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