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Tearin' it up on Salisbury Plain big style-y yo! CHECK MAH RIMS!
anyone else think its a bit odd one of the most armored MBT in the world has a shot trap dead center on its front hull? don't get me wrong i love the chally2 but still odd view port placement.
the leopard 2 is kinda the same it turrets just screams shot trap :P
but apparently they aren't shot traps, even though it looks like it.
LOL
>Shot-traps
>2012
SERIOUSLY GUYS what the hell.
If the Leopard 2 had an obvious shot-trap like this, do you not think they would have noticed and fixed this problem by now? Do you seriously think it would be one of the world's best selling MBT if it had such an obvious shot-trap? Please think a little and use your logic before making such arguments.
people who still speak of these shot-traps tend to make their conclusions from WW2 era tanks, not realizing the differences in both armor and penetrator tech between now and then. People like that are lacking or missing GREAT amount of newest informations of modern tank warfare. Modern APFSDS rounds, as a general rule, don't deflect like in WW2.
Modern long-rod kinetic energy penetrators (APFSDS) behave in a different way than old traditional solid shot armour-piercing rounds used in WW2.
Modern penetrators are so powerful in penetrating capabilities nowadays, they don't just "bounce off the armor and leave a scratch on it" they will now always penetrate in the first place and "go inside the armor package" anyway, they can not be stopped from penetrating the first layers. BUT, modern armor is designed to stop it from reaching the base armor. That's how it works today.
That's why the Leopard 2A5/ A6 with edge-shaped turret front does not form a shot-trap since it doesn't deflect the penetrators outwards to hit the hull or turret ring.
and by "modern armor" i meant regular composite armor design. Other armor types like Reactive armor works differently again.
well if you put it like that XD