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since it's a post-war tank, of course it outclasses the Tiger I, nothing to be proud there, even the IS-2 outclassed him in 1944 already.

the Tiger II on the other hand is still Boss. ;)

actualy the arl 44 was outdated when it came out due to the old chassis, it would be pretty close to the tiger 1 but the tank had emence firepower so hard to say for sure
it isn't as maneuvrable as the tiger and it only has 45mm of side armor the tiger has 80 plus interlocking wheels that give extra protection, at long range the arl 44 could strugle against the side armor of a tiger and not to mention the frontal armor, same for tiger but it had more accuracy and even if it couldnt pierce the front the arl 44 would be dead fast if it turned only slightly, so i would choose tiger for better accuracy side armor, speed and maneuvrability, but yes the KT would eat this as long as it ddin't have a mechanical failure :P

@Stuka,

dl;dr you repeated my comment in a more detailed way ;)

I just wanted to add some things, the ARL 44 has actually 120mm front armor plate, sloped at 45° = it's almost 180mm effective... strong enough to resist the old 88 gun of the Tiger I. ;)

And the tiger's side "protection" really isn't any better, let's be honest, what is it gonna stop exactly? 80mm is still a joke :P

I prefer the Russian IS-4 and IS-7 heavy prototypes which had both 170-200mm effective protection from the sides and even more from the front... but then again these tanks were built two years after WW2 and should not be compared to the Tigers.

dude you cant compair an is 4 or is 7 with a tiger, the tiger was the first true great heavy tank (the KV and b1 were good but not as great) besides the arl44 came out after ww2 and it was obsolete, nothing else than a giant slow turd that yes had good frontal armor and a good gun, but the tiger is still faster and more accurate, I would still choose my tiger anyday over the arl 44

lol, i even wrote this line "should NOT be compared" at the end. ^^

Yes, the design of ARL44 was obsolete indeed, still doesn't change the fact that it was built after the war = post-war tank. That's the point. And yes, Tiger > everything else.

I think everything has been said now. Let us now close this discussion, shall we? :)

yes :D

so what about that b1 :P

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