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bontanel
bontanel Dec 7 2013, 2:41am says: Online

Well... the universe is expanding in all directtions therefore it had to start in one point

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InsanityPays
InsanityPays Dec 7 2013, 11:31am replied:

*insert your mom joke here*

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Dec 7 2013, 6:27pm replied:

Not necessarily. God could have stretched the heavens after creation like it's mentioned several times in the Bible. If something is mentioned this many times in the Bible it better be important Biblegateway.com

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bontanel
bontanel Dec 8 2013, 3:31am replied: Online

as i said: one point. Who knows maybe the Big Bang could have been caused by God lookin from a christian perspective

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei Dec 8 2013, 3:17pm replied:

Isaiah 42:5

Thus says God, the Lord, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it...

How is that contrary to The Big Bang theory ElfFriend? It says God created the heavens (i.e space) and then stretched them out. The theory is fully compatible and not to mention very supportive of the idea of a god creating everything.

Remember that some scientists once thought the universe was eternal. The Big Bang theory has since done away with those claims.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Dec 9 2013, 2:10am replied:

I never said it ruled the Big Bang completely out. I was mentioning it that it didn't HAVE to be a Big Bang. God could have created everything as is just closer and then stretched that out (could also help explain the distant star light)

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Headhunter128
Headhunter128 Dec 7 2013, 8:54am says:

I don't know of any Atheists who outright DENY it. Question it, perhaps, that is only natural. Even though I believe it to be the currently most likely theory, it doesn't mean I am completely sure that it is the correct theory.

I doubt even the scientists behind the theory are anywhere near 100% sure. Going back in time that far makes it extremely difficult to be sure of anything.

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei Dec 7 2013, 11:50am replied:
Quote:I don't know of any Atheists who outright DENY it.

Anyone who believes in the steady-state theory (atheist or no) would deny The Big Bang.

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InsanityPays
InsanityPays Dec 7 2013, 2:50pm replied:

All he's saying is he doesn't know of any atheists like that (which I haven't either), but that doesn't mean he's denying their existence.

I'll admit, I too am a bit skeptical, but I'll take your word for it because it doesn't seem that unlikely. Viewpoints tend to deviate from person to person- it's only logical

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef Dec 7 2013, 9:19am says:

Well, many people ale not satisfied with answer on question "and what was before?" And it is no wonder, since from human's perspective time is constant. Everything else makes sense.

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InsanityPays
InsanityPays Dec 7 2013, 11:30am says:

Humanity can observe the universe and still never understand our origins. Imho, the big bang makes a whole lot of sense, but if it gets proved wrong with *LEGITIMATE* evidence, I wouldn't mind that at all- I'm fine with change.
I think the argument now is whether or not the universe is expanding out infinitely or if it will eventually bounce back into it's super-condensed form. I'd go with the latter, because for every positive in out universe, there is a negative.

Maybe this can be a religious issue too, but I don't think it's necessary to talk about religion in science- few religious texts are meant to be taken literally. They are meant to be interpreted, and if anything, discoveries and theories such as the big bang allow you to get a more accurate interpretation of such teachings.

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Cervi_Messias
Cervi_Messias Dec 8 2013, 1:08am says:

So wait we atheist deny the big bang now?

why wasn't I informed, I mean I was always told it was us evil atheists who supported the big bang, and we were wrong because the universe is constant, and 6,000yrs old

I mean without the big bang how can we justify all of our devil worshipping, mass murder and puppy kicking...

on a serious note Hindu and I agree on something now.

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei Dec 8 2013, 3:29pm replied:

Well the steady state theory was created by atheist scientists in response to the "theological implications of The Big Bang theory" and some atheists still subscribe to an eternal universe.

Books.google.co.uk

Books.google.co.uk

Tbsblog.thebestschools.org

Tbsblog.thebestschools.org

Pbs.org

But yeah, there are some creationists who deny The Big Bang too.

Icr.org

But it's not limited to them as I showed above. The main opposition came from atheists.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Dec 9 2013, 2:15am replied:

Puppy kicking :O you monster:P

But on a more serious note I have linked to an open letter written by secular scientists that destroyed the Big Bang so not all atheists accept it as fact. A little old but still: Cosmologystatement.org

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei Jan 10 2014, 9:10am replied:

That "open letter" also promotes the debunked steady state theory and other eternal universe hypothesizes. There's clear bias there.

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There are some who still deny The Big Bang theory. I've seen some creationists deny it but also some atheists who argue in favor of the steady state theory instead which was debunked long ago. However the evidence for The Big Bang theory is overwhelming. There is observational evidence (which you can see by yourself as an amateur astronomer) and physical data for it.

Science.nasa.gov

Still this hasn't stopped some creationists or atheists from denying it.

Still. The Big Bang theory is not without a few flaws. I personally think it's accurate based on the evidence and what else could explain the inflation of this universe, the positioning of the cosmic bodies and the rapid expansion?

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