Lulz, NK was getting their butt handed to them before the Chinese intervened and we weren't the strongest back then, the Russian's were and we were severely weaked because we'd just participated in WW2 and the american public was tired of war so there would be no prolonged conflict.
It's not like America was set up to win that engagement. If I'm recalling correctly the US Congress or something prevented the military from doing all that they could to succeed.
It's entirely because it was revealed that the whole war for the US was not telling the truth about how they were doing in the war. Mostly people saw images from the war and they just saw dead US and wounded soldiers. Also it was later revealed that the reason the US went to war was that 2 NVA attack boats attacked one of their US Ships WHICH was in North territory anyway. However it was just a lie and excuse to try and "contain communism". The US Govt also did not keep to their word in the Geneva Conference about when the French were ousted when they split the country and 2 and said that an election was to be held to decide who would lead the 2 countries once reunited. They broke the deal with Ho Chi Minh because the US knew he would win and that's why the North went to war with the south. Also the South Vietnamese govt was just a corrupt hellhole and frankly compared to the North which had the hero Ho Chi Minh and most veterans who helped liberate the country from the Japanese and French you can't say most people like the US involvement due to the fact the US was acting like a real prick. Also the US practically set up that engagement itself when it started not to keep to its deals and show itself as an aggressor and even when its own people start to question if its a "Just War". So pretty much the US dugs its own grave in that case but sadly it was not the idiots congress but somewhat innocent US soldiers. Also Vietnam is pretty much one of most defiant countries in the past.
I thought this was regarding the Korean War, maybe I shouldn't write on new years when i'm half sleep. (i slept most of the day)
So to comment on the Vietnam war...there's speculation we "lost" because we didn't want what happened in the 1950's with the korean war to happen with the vietnam war, i.e. we push too far north and we incur the wrath of china/soviets whatever.
in my opinion, they didn't really want to win but just wanted to contain, so the army wasn't as aggressive as it wanted (politics, effin politics) but when you are killing people and destroying stuff you either go into win or you don't.
The bunch of Presidents and higher echelons of government officials who went through the mincer during that period were in such a state of denial they wouldn't even consider defeat as a possibility.
The very idea that another nation who was nowhere near toe-to-toe with the US could actually beat them simply by using superior strategy was so outrageous they decided it would be better to throw away more soldier's lives than ever publicly admit the fact.
sry to break the humor, but who is he? .-.
General Võ Nguyên Giáp (25 August 1911 – 4 October 2013). He was the Commander In Chief of Vietnam People's Army during Vietnam war.
That's the guy.
I remember he was the supreme general of the NVA (North Vietnamese Army)forty/fifty years ago but I forgot the name.
Eh, they beat China a while back too, and then France. Even as an American, that was expected. XD
And Cambodia and China again.
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Lulz, NK was getting their butt handed to them before the Chinese intervened and we weren't the strongest back then, the Russian's were and we were severely weaked because we'd just participated in WW2 and the american public was tired of war so there would be no prolonged conflict.
I'm sorry but that was the most misinformed thing I've read in a long time.
It is time to unleash...
... the FACE PALM.
DUM DUM DUM DUUUUUUUUUUUM.
Vietnam war dude, not Korean.
Sorry, you were severely weakened? Hurr, obviously Operation Barbrossa doesn't mean anything to you.
Tired of war? And the rest of the world was...?
No wait, don't reply, my brain hurts to much as it is.
It's not like America was set up to win that engagement. If I'm recalling correctly the US Congress or something prevented the military from doing all that they could to succeed.
It's entirely because it was revealed that the whole war for the US was not telling the truth about how they were doing in the war. Mostly people saw images from the war and they just saw dead US and wounded soldiers. Also it was later revealed that the reason the US went to war was that 2 NVA attack boats attacked one of their US Ships WHICH was in North territory anyway. However it was just a lie and excuse to try and "contain communism". The US Govt also did not keep to their word in the Geneva Conference about when the French were ousted when they split the country and 2 and said that an election was to be held to decide who would lead the 2 countries once reunited. They broke the deal with Ho Chi Minh because the US knew he would win and that's why the North went to war with the south. Also the South Vietnamese govt was just a corrupt hellhole and frankly compared to the North which had the hero Ho Chi Minh and most veterans who helped liberate the country from the Japanese and French you can't say most people like the US involvement due to the fact the US was acting like a real prick. Also the US practically set up that engagement itself when it started not to keep to its deals and show itself as an aggressor and even when its own people start to question if its a "Just War". So pretty much the US dugs its own grave in that case but sadly it was not the idiots congress but somewhat innocent US soldiers. Also Vietnam is pretty much one of most defiant countries in the past.
I suppose that could be the case. I'll admit that my history on the Vietnam War is a bit rusty.
I thought this was regarding the Korean War, maybe I shouldn't write on new years when i'm half sleep. (i slept most of the day)
So to comment on the Vietnam war...there's speculation we "lost" because we didn't want what happened in the 1950's with the korean war to happen with the vietnam war, i.e. we push too far north and we incur the wrath of china/soviets whatever.
in my opinion, they didn't really want to win but just wanted to contain, so the army wasn't as aggressive as it wanted (politics, effin politics) but when you are killing people and destroying stuff you either go into win or you don't.
The bunch of Presidents and higher echelons of government officials who went through the mincer during that period were in such a state of denial they wouldn't even consider defeat as a possibility.
The very idea that another nation who was nowhere near toe-to-toe with the US could actually beat them simply by using superior strategy was so outrageous they decided it would be better to throw away more soldier's lives than ever publicly admit the fact.