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Kalga
Kalga Jun 6 2014, 4:15pm says:

Well, you always need a darker shade of gray to keep the lighter shade of gray from turning darker...

In other words, the decades between the fall of the Soviet Union and the current few years has seen the West becoming much more... morally ambiguous (not helped by the War on Terror, which was a wonderful excuse for various governments to expand their power at the expense of their people, such as the PATRIOT Act, the NSA spyings and various other stuff)). Maybe the rise of these "new evil empire(s) (Russia, China, etc)" Can at least slow down the West's slide toward curtailing their people's freedoms... or makes both sides equally evil.

Lacking an ideological enemy, western free market capitalism has morphed into a pseudo-neo-feudalism/crony capitalism. Perhaps it's time for a new enemy to force capitalism to rein in their worst excesses.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 6 2014, 4:44pm says:

I called this shiz right at the start. I mean, there's no way that people could genuinely believe that Ukraine was run by Nazis and that Stalin was a 'true friend of the people, a role that Putin is trying to take on'.

To be quite frank, its rather pathetic. I expected more from you Russia.

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DonBre
DonBre Jun 7 2014, 3:48pm replied:

Look at it like this .. borders are borders (its only geographic ..it cant chang ethe people who live their ... you cant make a province into a country and think everyone who ived their will change their nationality sam wewith motenegro there are still a lot of serbs who claim to be serbs not giving up on their ancesters) and countries sometimes can just be made up by other countries to weaken the real Country.. Unraine ancesters proably come from Russia slavic nvm .. half of unraine is populated by russians who are figthing for their lives vs the catolics same happen in Croatia with the serbs.. Krajina nobady helped them and their province Krajina fell to the Croatians that will happen same in Uranie if Russia does not help the rest of the population of the Russians in Ukraine.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 7 2014, 4:20pm replied:

You know, a group of Sudeten Germans were killed by Czech border police in 1939. Those poor Sudeten Germans were helped out by a really nice Austrian called Hitler.

The point is that anyone can claim that they are helping an ethnic group in a neighbouring country. Truth is, that group doesn't need help; its an excuse to land grab from a neighbouring sovereign nation.

Put it this way; if there was a revolution in Romania, would it be acceptable for Hungary to invade? After all, there are a large amount of Hungarians and Szekely Hungarians living in Central and Western Romania.

Also, the Russians are not 'fighting for their lives' nor do they make up half of Ukraine's population. They make up about seventeen percent of the population according to a 2001 census.

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aleksadragutin
aleksadragutin Jun 8 2014, 3:33am replied: Online

Coming from someone who has never been a part of a certain endangered ethnic group.

How would you feel if a government of a country you live in started denying you your own culture, spiting on your religion, and burning your flags.

Russia is simply protecting it's borders from EU and NATO, and I think we all know that those two are not friendly neighborhood palls like they say they are.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 8 2014, 9:48am replied:

But that hasn't happened until Russian troops marched into Crimea. If you can provide some evidence from relatively neutral sources, I'm willing to change my view.

Edit: I just searched various terms equating to 'anti-Russian, Ukraine'. The only stuff that came up is related to the events that the occupation of Crimea sparked off. Also, about the EU; f*ck it. I hate it. It needs gone and gone quick. Rebuild it properly from the ground up with nations joining based on the people's votes.

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DonBre
DonBre Jun 8 2014, 5:42pm replied:

its funny how i gave you karma points... remember its all about the USA,WEST goverment they all love you and the media .. thats why we are all living in a better place then we did yesterday :) there is no illuminati no new world over no GMO its all a lie and an amazing illusion ....dreams are here for no reason and we are all living this lives for no purpose or reason :D

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DonBre
DonBre Jun 8 2014, 5:32pm replied:

Bro **** wikipedia and what every Madia in USA EUROPE says... go to the Ukraine and see how many russians live their and get off from the Mountain ******** USA,WEST,WIKIpedia madia ******** sometimes you cant be retarded and just realize it that your whole world is controled by banks and that USA,WEST goverment dont give a **** about their people just because Russia cares about their poeple does n ot mean they are the devil because they drink votka...

Bro if serbia didnt send any troops to defend the serbs in Bosnia there would be no called RS REPUBLIKA SRPSKA it would end up like Krajina di in croatia...

ps not trying to say your retarded!!! i was taalking about the general view on the subject :)

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 9 2014, 6:00am replied:

I tend to avoid Wikipedia because of everybody's lack of trust in it. And when it comes to the media, the best you can do is check more than one news outlet to see if they are generally in agreement.

I'm still against Russia occupying Crimea. For the same reasons I would be against India, Pakistan, Poland or Romania occupying London; just because people who share the ethnicity of your nation's majority live in an area in large numbers, does not give you the right to occupy that area. I would understand if the Ukrainians had willingly given up Crimea but they haven't.

Russia's actions are in direct violation of the Budapest Memorandum, which they signed. They are in the wrong. There is no way around it.

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Lt.Dann
Lt.Dann Jun 9 2014, 1:43pm replied:

What Russia did was obviously a selfish act. They could've kept exploiting Ukraine by just maintaining good economic relations, but they prefered blunt force which obviously doesn't work. A happy cow produces more milk. At least the West have the decency to insidiously seduce other countries with immediate wealth and consumption while sucking their resources.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 9 2014, 1:45pm replied:

Damn right. Its like 'Here, we have sweets and ice cream and chocolate and fudge. That'll cost your soul please.'

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Jun 9 2014, 2:10pm replied:

What happened in Crimea was a relatively peaceful political takeover, a "landgrab" or a "Motherland returns" if you wish.

It was all organised better there, very little people died, there was a strongly enforced discipline, SOP & and a general sense of justice. The Russians came in and the Ukrainians went back home, no questions asked. There could be worst and there a feeling in Ukraine the separation just went through, Crimea didn't ment all.

What is going in the Eastern regions, the Donetsk & Luhansk duo is totally different. Initially it was supposed to went like Crimea but without the strong internal military backing. Now the people there are becoming increasingly militant, militarised and even producing their own upgraded versions of the BTR-70 APC. Now it is more resembling old fashioned war communism sprinkled with some Chechnya-styled black ops. The former GRU Spetsnaz elements of the Vostok batalion unit are unfit for this.

The appearance of paid Internet sock puppets and trolls is nothing new. Remember, the US does the same albeit on a much specialised scale.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 9 2014, 2:13pm replied:

I think that's the joke about the internet accounts; Russia has very little idea of what its doing or how to do it.

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Reborn:X
Reborn:X Jun 9 2014, 2:19pm replied:

What about the professional blackhat hackers from the Voronezh?

Surely the Russian military & intelligence is specialised in revolutionary warfare methods. Why they do have much experience in the field and on direct human-to-human tactics the concept of trolling isn't that foreign to them. Albeit outdated and standardised in approach.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 10 2014, 12:27pm replied:

I didn't mean hacking wise. I meant how incompetent they are with connecting to the citizens of the web.

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DonBre
DonBre Jun 9 2014, 11:17pm replied:

You British people are so silly :) hope you guys will not bomb Serbia again would be kinda mean :/

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DonBre
DonBre Jun 9 2014, 11:20pm replied:

just kinda*

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Jun 10 2014, 12:26pm replied:

We only bombed it when things got rather messy. You know, ethnic cleansing messy. And as part of a UN task force I should add.

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DonBre
DonBre Jun 9 2014, 11:16pm says:

REMEBER TO VOTE FOR Darth Vader FOR THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE !

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Lt.Dann
Lt.Dann Jun 25 2014, 8:23pm says:

You know Russia is well educated about the internet to know that "Gay Turtles" is a casual name.

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murauder
murauder Jun 26 2014, 5:07am says:

It's just a propaganda war. Nothing new except for the methods for delivering the message.

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You may have noticed an odd increase in the number of people who love Russia and think Kiev is ruled by Nazis who consume the flesh of Russians. Well, you weren't exactly wrong.

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