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GeneralTantor
GeneralTantor - - 622 comments

Yep both sides are used by the Lobbyist and mega rich to fit the wealthiest needs above the rest of the country... The democratic party is suppose to support the poor when in reality they destroy the poor by making them dependent on Welfare... And the Republican party is suppose to support Ideas of limited government... But both are false para-dimes of what they actually do which is whatever their Big Lobbyist want...

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef - - 3,097 comments

Now imagine having more parties than two.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus - - 5,806 comments

I don't think there's a real ideological gulf between the parties, just a perceived one. Both parties in the US seem to have very similar views on both social and economic issues; one slightly more to the right, the other slightly more to the left. Compared to other industrialized nations, the US is far to the right regardless of party.

Whatever is causing the seemingly massive gap between the parties, I don't think it's actual ideological differences. Maybe something to do with new forms of media or international politics that makes polarization/demonizing more politically advantageous than in times past (though that's certainly been around for a while too).

I feel like politics will probably chug along business as usual, but we may head towards a debate more along the lines of libertarianism vs. social democracy.

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ComradeWinston Creator
ComradeWinston - - 1,822 comments

What has become the right is now a parody of Faux News, its entirely incoherent and in a deep rage. Everywhere, a Mexican or ISIS member is out to get them; its all nationalistic egotism and no substance. Between the genuine fascists, the majority who are simply corrupt politicians, and the glorified anarchists(aka libertarians) that seem to hate the US more than anything, there is a glue composed of fear and nationalism that keeps them vaguely on the same page.

The left, it hardly exists in any official capacity and just north of the border Canada puts the US' concept of "right/left" to shame. Democrats are mostly nothing more than seeming-compassionate conservatives by western standards and most are generally less corrupt than their Republican counterparts, as if being less **** were much a selling point. What little of the left that exists in an organized capacity is shared by a majority of Democratic Socialists, a sadly notable number of intellectually bankrupt "progressives" and a tiny group of pathetic SJWs with trigger warnings tattooed to their foreheads right under their brightly-dyed hair.

Media would tell you the US is largely conservative but when one considers the ever-growing number of atheists and the fact that the majority of them are some flavor of leftist, how true can that be. It has been my suspicion for a long while and I generally now believe that the vision of a conservative America is nothing more than an oligarch's convenient lie; a byproduct of the US citizen's apathy and the ambitions of the wealthy. It is a rare day when Reagan is mentioned and even more uncommon is it when he's not being used as a negative reference; conservatives aren't popular in the zeitgeist while almost all national heroes—spare generals and their soldiers—are leftists or at the very least liberal. Now an old white man, derided by the same old conservative establishment voices, is seen to be credible by most. In my own experience: It hardly took any effort on my part to turn a mid-western libertarian and make him a liberal-sympathizer who makes Trump jokes with regularity. I didn't bury him in liberal media, I simply responded earnestly and made my case in short sweet bursts because if I am truly anywhere near correct a simple nudge should and does in my experience suffice.

You may find hillbillies waving their guns around as if its somehow a revolutionary act rather pathetic. You'll probably be disgusted by 'proud fat people.' You probably aren't a fan of laws that stop people from marrying or smoking whatever they want. You probably hate the pampered whiners demanding "safe spaces." The fact is, these two broad sides are sides for a reason. Sure both have a majority membership that is human, though I can't vouch for most conservatives in that department I can say at the very least that it isn't beyond reason to find agreement beyond one's 'side.' We're simply seeing the birth of a new center in a nation suffocated by warmongers and corporatism.

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With the advent of extreme Social Justice and AltRight politics there has been a complete polar shift, diametrically opposed groups find themselves pushed together by common enemies, or perhaps common ideals.

Are we entering a political age where the Left V Right politics of the 20th century are ending, and is becoming Authoritarian versus Libertarian? Are we entering a political renaissance or a dark age?

Please, tell me what you think, and debate nicely!

This debate subject was inspired by Nicholas Gorof: Youtube.com