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Micro x Macro evolution
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My point here is - creatonists say that animals can evolve only within bounds of species. If something is a dog it can only be a dog.
I would like to know where are these "bounds" for dog to be still a dog considering that we have so many different breeds of dogs that we could call them new species (for example Chivava x Czechoslovakian wolfdog). Fist two guys in the picture are same species - therefore it's fine... bottom two tigers are DIFFERENT species so according to creatonists evolution is false here.
I wonder if we would call both guys on the bottom simply breed of tiger, would creationists admit that the tiger evolved from the guy on the left?
Also if we would not call chivava a dog would they say that it didn't evolved from dogs?
There's also the problem that most creationists seem to not understand what species actually means. An example = From what I've heard, most would say that a finch is a species, blackbird is a species etc. But its not cut and dry like that. Finches are a broad spectrum of species; Greenfinch, Linnet, Goldfinch etc. Its the same with Blackbirds; Common Blackbird, Indian Blackbird, Grey Winged Blackbird etc.
TL DR; It seems that creationists on the whole see species as being animals that are very different from each other and refuse to accept the actual biological classifications.
Well, most creatinists obviously don't understand even basics of evolution.
From my understanding - evidence for macroevolution is microevolution itself.
I mean if some kind of animals gives a birth to a slightly different animal and that animal gives a birth to another slightly different animal you'll necessarily (after millions of cycles) get completely different animal than the first one. I mean do they really believe that after X cycles animals won't evolve any further because it would be outside "bounds" of species?
The only difference between macro and microevolution is a timescale.
And they say that macroevolution was not observed... well obviously, because one just can't observe animal evolution for several millions of years.
Exactly
SHOW ME A DOG BECOME NOT A DOG! CHECKMATE ATHEISTS! GMAN GMAN GMAN GMAN!
Reminds me this...
Species can't evolve over the night therefore evolution is false... and therefore Gawd.
I keep confusing GOD with DOG, GODDAMIT !!!!
DOGDAMNIT