Some people just need reassurance that there is something after death. No idea why... I know that there is probably nothing after death, and I imagine it just goes black. Nothing. Nothingness lol. Sounds perfectly fine, I mean, I'd be dead so what would I care? xD.
So if death = end then doesn't that mean that people can do whatever they want: kill, murder, steal, lie, etc. and then blow themselves up and never get judged for anything that they have done?
I didn't mean that, but as you mention it, how worse can be the judgment than blowing up? Some things are considered worse that death, but no modern law would use those.
God's wrath will be beyond anything that you can imagine. But beyond that God is a fair judge so he will show the criminal all the sorrow that he/she caused, I think that would be enough told a judgment for most.
ElfFriend is using that old excuse that people can only have good morality if they believe in god. Same excuse, same stupidity. Do I really have to educate someone AGAIN? *sigh* well I guess i could TRY. Morality is something that comes from life experiences and indoctrination. Your logic is meaningless when the people who blow stuff up are the same people believe that god would reward them. People who believe god hates gay people. People who believe god wants them to kill a large number of people. Parents can make sure that religion becomes a big part of their child's life by indoctrinating them before their old enough to make their own decisions through reason. Religion does not make morals, it destroys morals. It makes people blindly follow a certain code without any question, like the Borg from Star Trek. I am Atheist, but my morals come from my own sense of what is right from wrong. I think murder, rape, abuse, stealing, and religion are immoral because I used my own thinking and life experiences. I can guess that you are against abortion, porn, sexual rights, and progression because you set your morals around the morals of someone who was a carpenter and his mother was ***** who can't admit it who had the intelligence of someone 2000 years ago. I base my morals from rationality, empathy, and compassion. Now who here is really moral?
One, I never said that people can only have good morality if they believe in god.
Two, Marry was a very Godly woman, she would risked getting stoned for having a child, but because God asked her to bring Him into the world in flesh and bone, she agreed.
Three, I base my morals of what the Bible says:) not just Jesus, but all of the bible.
Four, God will judge everyone justly.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Corinthians 13:1-3 KJV) read the entire chapter, I can't fit it all in one post and I'm too lazy to post twice, it's 2:22 am!! So cut me some slack:) anyways without Love, life is meaningless. I have heard/read things where love is replaced with Jesus, since Jesus is compared to love in many cases.
No, it doesn't. Our pre-frontal cortex prevents us from doing that. If you don't value life, with or without religion, you are defined as a psychopath.
True true.
Very true.
*shrugs*
Some people just need reassurance that there is something after death. No idea why... I know that there is probably nothing after death, and I imagine it just goes black. Nothing. Nothingness lol. Sounds perfectly fine, I mean, I'd be dead so what would I care? xD.
If there was life after death, death itself would be quite useless. Yes, I like the idea of death = end. That's why death can solve so many things.
So if death = end then doesn't that mean that people can do whatever they want: kill, murder, steal, lie, etc. and then blow themselves up and never get judged for anything that they have done?
I didn't mean that, but as you mention it, how worse can be the judgment than blowing up? Some things are considered worse that death, but no modern law would use those.
God's wrath will be beyond anything that you can imagine. But beyond that God is a fair judge so he will show the criminal all the sorrow that he/she caused, I think that would be enough told a judgment for most.
God himself is far beyond I can imagine. And I have to say, my imagination is pretty wild.
thats almost as funny as a kid in my sociology class trying to convince us that the black panthers are good people.........
ElfFriend is using that old excuse that people can only have good morality if they believe in god. Same excuse, same stupidity. Do I really have to educate someone AGAIN? *sigh* well I guess i could TRY. Morality is something that comes from life experiences and indoctrination. Your logic is meaningless when the people who blow stuff up are the same people believe that god would reward them. People who believe god hates gay people. People who believe god wants them to kill a large number of people. Parents can make sure that religion becomes a big part of their child's life by indoctrinating them before their old enough to make their own decisions through reason. Religion does not make morals, it destroys morals. It makes people blindly follow a certain code without any question, like the Borg from Star Trek. I am Atheist, but my morals come from my own sense of what is right from wrong. I think murder, rape, abuse, stealing, and religion are immoral because I used my own thinking and life experiences. I can guess that you are against abortion, porn, sexual rights, and progression because you set your morals around the morals of someone who was a carpenter and his mother was ***** who can't admit it who had the intelligence of someone 2000 years ago. I base my morals from rationality, empathy, and compassion. Now who here is really moral?
One, I never said that people can only have good morality if they believe in god.
Two, Marry was a very Godly woman, she would risked getting stoned for having a child, but because God asked her to bring Him into the world in flesh and bone, she agreed.
Three, I base my morals of what the Bible says:) not just Jesus, but all of the bible.
Four, God will judge everyone justly.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. (1 Corinthians 13:1-3 KJV) read the entire chapter, I can't fit it all in one post and I'm too lazy to post twice, it's 2:22 am!! So cut me some slack:) anyways without Love, life is meaningless. I have heard/read things where love is replaced with Jesus, since Jesus is compared to love in many cases.
No, it doesn't. Our pre-frontal cortex prevents us from doing that. If you don't value life, with or without religion, you are defined as a psychopath.