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ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Jan 27 2005 Anchor

TOKYO--About 4,800 Japanese PSPs have been returned to Sony due to problems with the handheld's square button, according to a recent interview with Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi in Nikkei Business magazine.

"The button's location is [architectured] on purpose," Kutaragi added. "It's according to specifications. This is something that we've created, and this is our specification. There was a clear purpose to it, and it wasn't a mistake."

Offering additional testimony praising the handheld, Kutaragi said, "I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architect's blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. It's the same as that."

so, because they have a buggy button, its ok, because it has good graphics?

not a psp flame, but sony in general, their buisiness practices are so outragous!
the only good move i've ever seen on their part, was a free ps2 game (off of their list...) if you had the buggy viewtiful joe 2 demo that wipes memory cards (or high scores on DDR >:( )

Jan 27 2005 Anchor

It's not the matter of graphics. He was calling the architecture of the PSP the most beautiful thing in the world, which he is, of course, allowed to say.

I think there's more to the story then you have read. You'd probably have to read more articles about this story before bashing Sony and Kutaragi.

Hey, bugs happen. This is Sony's first foray into the handheld gaming market. Nintendo has had plenty of things like this happen when their first Gameboy hit the market. Unless you bought one of the first Japanese versions of the GB, you didn't notice any real problems, because most/all of them were fixed before they were shipped overseas.

We'll just have to see how this thing develops.

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Jan 27 2005 Anchor

But Dude, a Billion Dollar Company, with a millions-of-Dollars marketing Budget should know better.
I mean, they designed controllers before, why did they fck up the handheld?
Well, they fcked up. It can happen, even if it shouldn't. But the Way Kutaragi is defending the PSP is outrageous. It's of course, because sending the PSP back into production would be too expensive.

Jan 27 2005 Anchor

i dont see whats so good about the PSP. I tried DS yesterday and its amazing.

ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Jan 27 2005 Anchor

a few buggy things?

holy hell, i think you missed the 4800

that is unacceptable!

and i dont remember nearly 5000 gb's being sent back for faulty a/b buttons :D

its not even just the button, the disks flying out, dead pixels (ds has these too, someone needs to find a better LCD manufacturing meathod) , the joysticks breaking

i'd say the PSP is off to a worse launch than Star Wars Galaxies, except not even star wars fanboys could stand it, and sony fanboys worship psp :D

Jan 27 2005 Anchor

It doesn't really matter. We're going to get a much better version of the handheld, which is practically guaranteed. They always fix the problems before they send their products overseas. The US is becoming a much bigger market than Japan, after all :P

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declinsion
declinsion Wall Scibbler
Jan 27 2005 Anchor

4800 isn't that big of a number in a 7 billion dollar industry.

Jan 27 2005 Anchor

it's 0.6 % of the entire shipment. Also, the flaw is in the design. It's not a poduction error, it's INTENDED. Meaning every unit suffers from it. It's just that most people don't take it as a reason to return the PSP.

For those who didn't read up on it: It's a flaw in the square button that make it less responsive. It's caused by a slighty off sensor. The sensor is shifted to the right of the button, because the button is so close to the display. This causes a less responsive button and sometimes the button even gets stuck.
And obviously it's annoying enough for 4800 people to turn their PSPs in.

Jan 27 2005 Anchor

Who cares handheld gaming blows ass... get a fragbox :/

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Jan 27 2005 Anchor

Yeah, don't spend $150, spend $4500 :|

FragBox is a dream machine, buddy. Meaning, "IN YOUR DREAMS"

You could buy 30 Nintendo DS's for the price of one FragBox. I'd rather buy an Alienware, which, when priced around the same, is perhaps the most powerful gaming PC on the market that can play Doom 3 on Extreme (or High or whatever) specs. :P

Edited by: Karuto

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Wilhelm_III
Wilhelm_III Who the hell do I think I am?
Jan 27 2005 Anchor

Well, I'll just have to see how bad that "flaw" is when I buy a PSP. 'Till as far as I am concerned this does not matter, and 0.6% is not very much.

ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Jan 27 2005 Anchor

fragbox? phux that! get a mini mac and put linux on it!
(before some ignorant sod says "omg you cant game on linux" i point to cedega, if you dont know what it is, google is your friend)

ShortCutMan
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Jan 28 2005 Anchor

ImTheDarkcyde wrote: dead pixels (ds has these too, someone needs to find a better LCD manufacturing meathod)

DS has had less reports of dead pixels however, so they've won on that side.

Its not really the fact that 4800 PSP's have been turned in, its that they all have this design flaw, plenty of people would still be annoyed by it. This is the kind of thing that may not be fixed for other market releases.

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Jan 28 2005 Anchor

Karuto wrote: Yeah, don't spend $150, spend $4500 :|

FragBox is a dream machine, buddy. Meaning, "IN YOUR DREAMS"

You could buy 30 Nintendo DS's for the price of one FragBox. I'd rather buy an Alienware, which, when priced around the same, is perhaps the most powerful gaming PC on the market that can play Doom 3 on Extreme (or High or whatever) specs. :P


rofl, the pc I built is better then Fragbox or most alienware PC's. And at half the price. Anyways, I think handheld systems are for people who have no life. When I go outside, it's usually to get away from the computer or video games, not so that I can play it even more.

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chis
chis Old man.
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

Handhealds are only relevent for long holiday journeys :P

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Wilhelm_III
Wilhelm_III Who the hell do I think I am?
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

GUNrunNER wrote:

Karuto wrote: Yeah, don't spend $150, spend $4500 :|

FragBox is a dream machine, buddy. Meaning, "IN YOUR DREAMS"

You could buy 30 Nintendo DS's for the price of one FragBox. I'd rather buy an Alienware, which, when priced around the same, is perhaps the most powerful gaming PC on the market that can play Doom 3 on Extreme (or High or whatever) specs. :P


rofl, the pc I built is better then Fragbox or most alienware PC's. And at half the price. Anyways, I think handheld systems are for people who have no life. When I go outside, it's usually to get away from the computer or video games, not so that I can play it even more.


Me and my famaly travl alot so it is helpfull on the road, for those damn cross country drives. ;)

ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

like i said.. mac mini..

they are smaller than a fragbox by a large margin.

only 2 inches tall, 6(or so) inches wide,
its SMALL (in lowercase letters)

shumo154
shumo154 we all fail at life
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

fragbox... ive never heard of a fragbox.. but alienware is cool

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Jan 28 2005 Anchor

fragbox is like a gamecube, only its a computer, and with much more power.

Wilhelm_III
Wilhelm_III Who the hell do I think I am?
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

GameCube is the most durable console out there... Other than that there is not much good about it. Damn French engineering for you. PSP wil wrock, 'nuff said.Well, I say that without having played it, but the design sure is sexeh, I bet you are beating off to it now Divid.

ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

gamecube is superior to wilhelm_III

and aint that the truth.

though, the david cult, have you seen Resident Evil 4, or any upcoming titles?

I'd wager the Gamecube and Xbox are just as powerful as a fragbox
(before some dumbass says "omg xbox only gamecube iz lame" - the xbox and gamecube are practically equal on all levels, other than hardware space - FACT)

shumo154
shumo154 we all fail at life
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

except you vertuallydont need memory cards for da box

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360 is great, my live accounts are frozenrazor154 and macro razor154.I show up for a month , i disappear for two ... what is wrong with that?

Jan 28 2005 Anchor

Actually, the Gamecube is more powerful than the PS2, with better graphics and better performance. Nintendo has had far less units shipped back to them than both PS2 and Xbox combined. Not to mention, if the Xbox didn't have its hard drive, the Gamecube would be the best console on the market (not meaning most sold; just the flat out best).

It's been proven. :)

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster."
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Jan 28 2005 Anchor

gamecube is more powerful, but ps2 has much more great games

Wilhelm_III
Wilhelm_III Who the hell do I think I am?
Jan 28 2005 Anchor

ImTheDarkcyde wrote: gamecube is superior to wilhelm_III

and aint that the truth.

though, the david cult, have you seen Resident Evil 4, or any upcoming titles?

I'd wager the Gamecube and Xbox are just as powerful as a fragbox
(before some dumbass says "omg xbox only gamecube iz lame" - the xbox and gamecube are practically equal on all levels, other than hardware space - FACT)


Also, the GameCube is more durable. More durable by 1 test granted, but still. ;) also, the ps2 was a pioneer for most things that both consoles use, like say internet gameing, SOCOM: Navy Seals was the first online console game, for PS2. Annnd, the PS3 looks promising,more so than the Xbox2 and GamCube2 I think. Wow, this has gone waaay of subject.

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