please help! need help on mod making! first time! dont know what progamming languge(s) to use! S.O.S Thread

please help me!!!!!
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C++ is the standard coding for making mods. If you aren't at least fluent with the language, then it's going to be a hard time to start off with it.

Trust me, coding is some of the hardest stuff, and you'll probably want to go through some training first before attempting it. It'd be best if you tried other things first, like mapping or modelling.

Yeah i agree, C++ is very difficult and can seem almost impossible if you havn't done any type of programming before. A good idea is to start on a basic language such as Comal 87 which will break you into low level programming and it's easy to pick up. Althogh these are rough guidelines, its never a bad idea not to start C++ straight away because in time, like most things, you will get proficient and use to it and it will give you a head start in University if you choose to do a programming course.
A good reference website is Cprogramming.com for newbies like yourself.

I hope this helps you,
Thanks
Scotty

I picked up C++ quite easy.. when I was 11.. with no prior experience in programming

Although I was young, and it took me longer (a few years as opposed to a few months) to learn the more advanced things and be able to use them properly and wisely

Well, C++ looks pretty hard for me, the only programming language I know is Turbo Pascal, but it's not for modding really. Yeah, C++ is a standard, sometimes mixed with other programming languages/scripts. I wonder if someone's still using Assembler. :]

Download the SDK and you will see that the files are in C++ format in the source code section.

SeienAbunae wrote: :O I picked up C++ quite easy.. when I was 11.. with no prior experience in programming

Although I was young, and it took me longer (a few years as opposed to a few months) to learn the more advanced things and be able to use them properly and wisely

the syntax of C++ is easy but writing useable and good code is hard. by best suggestion if you don't want to spend years learning the language is to buy 2 books. 1) any C++ book and the 2nd) Design Patterns. Design pattersn by the gang of four teaches how to design OO code by example.

One question,
What game are you want ing to mod?
because not all games use the same code
eg. C'n'C: Generals uses INI coding whitch is edited by wordpad or notepad

I agree with slye_Fox.. generals yes uses a sort of "dedicated" language.. c++ is not the case for sure.

btw.. if u want to learn c++ go for it, just be patient and if u have at least one book it is perfect because it helps you a lot.
And yes, go Cprogramming.com

the ini scripting is not a "language" at all, its just a projectile/weapons/units definition file

Theres some other games that do that.

The best thing is to ACTUALLY do code stuff, dont just read over the examples and be like I get that and wait till you "know it all" to do something. Code and type every little example in the book. Then it will stick.

i have a game programming starter kit with visual c++, SRMA 3d(an animator) and genisis 3d.

I suggest you first learn something easy like Basic, or Visual Basic, before progressing to C or C++. C++ is now the standard language, but C is also useful.

Didn't Quake just use standard C ? You could always get that and start off with a test demo to start you off and the road to greatness? Alot of poeple have started in just that fashion. too. Then while learning that and developing your skills you start off with the engine flavor you want and then start building off of that.

Quake did not use C for game logic.

Ok I was wrong I had thought Quake had used C as its code Sorry just trying to offer a suggestion.

Quake did not use C for game logic

somewhat.. uses C for goalpoints and some internal functions. but for the most part the AI along with much of the other clientside material is QuakeC related. But the engine was coded in C

So I was correct in part but not whole? Oo;;;

I said game logic, not engine.

thats very vague. the ai and much of the background elements, basically all server side functions are in C, whilst client fnctions in the most part are through a highly inapt quake1 based language called quakec. Quake1 uses the engine, built in C in contrast with the client end material built in QuakeC, QC for short.

scratch a bit of that..

the goal entity functions and core elements of the AI are server side engine based. whilst shooting, running, frames and interaction past chasing is mainly qc based or client based.

Edited by: ChrisPage

Explanation:

The Quake engine is written in C. The engine in turn runs a QuakeC 'virtual machine', which runs a 'binary' compiled from their own language QuakeC (based on C).

The QuakeC code contains most of the game logic. AI, weapons firing, game rules, etc. If the QuakeC code is eliminated as much as it can but still be able to run, then all you'd be able to do is walk around (can't jump, no items, doors or teleports would exist, etc). Certain functions that are a little math-intensive are actually in the engine code to preserve speed. These include physics and pathfinding.

Since the QuakeC code is all server-side, stuff such as the HUD, menu, and other things are still in the C engine code.

Edited by: Sajt

So my 1st post in question was correct then?

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Oo; I'm done. Try
Devnet.sylphis3d.com

or

Garagegames.com

if you want to get your hands dirty there ya go those two would be your best bet...

Gametutorials.com

knock yourself out