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Jul 16 2013 Anchor | ||
Hey guys i'm working on a game called R.E.M and have been for awhile now, it's a Survival Horror game about a man who has been in an accident and is in a coma, you play as him as he fights off his fears inside his mind to get a second chance at life. If you check out my page i have done a fair bit and i have all the core mechanics i want, i just need a purpose/objective for it. I have been thinking you have to walk around and collect pictures and memories by doing Puzzels and such using your Vortex and Soul and such, but i'm not sure this is enough. If i could steal a few minutes from any of you to bounce ideas off and get your feedback on what I've already done that would be amazing. Let us know your thoughts Billy, |
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Jul 16 2013 Anchor | ||
The idea is good and has a lot of potential. The question is how to implement it properly. Puzzles are enough, if you make enough of them and have sufficient variety. It's easy as that. Just look at Portal 2 which is a long game about Portals. As for your game, I have some random ideas. Bear in mind that I have great interest in videogame stories, so it'll be an idea for the plot of the game, not the gameplay itself. Let's say your character has severe head injuries. Your mind is totally messed up, hence you cannot access the most recent memories. As you get closer to the accident, your memories become more and more real since your head isn't as messed up anymore. However, instead of being unrealistic versions of your memories, they now become realistic but nightmarish versions of those. Since you are in coma, probably dying, it could be the reaper hunting you (for example). That way you can have the player learn the mechanics of the puzzles in a safe environment before descending deeper into the depths of the horror genre. Eventually you make it to the day of your accident, find out what happened and wake up. Just written down the first idea that came to my head. |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
Hey SniperFan! thanks a lot for your comments and thoughts on both my posts I do like this idea, using the memories as level type things is great! and the progressive finding information about the accident and such would work well Would you mind if i took ideas from this and sorta implemented them in my own way? cheers, thank you for your time and opinion billy, |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
Nice idea. Not too original as amnesia is such a common and almost considered cheap means to mystery in horror games. I like the idea about doors and images, but you still have the actual gameplay aspect wide open. Is it for console / PC / mobile, controller / keyboard + mouse / touchcreen, 2D / 3D, first person / third person / overhead cam? Will the puzzles be physics / logic / memory ? Any action events such as real time enemies? No matter how great an idea you need the gameplay to be fun and interesting. |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
well my base idea wasn't that he didn't know what happened, it was he knew exactly what happened, but is trapped inside this dream state no matter how hard he tried to awake and communicate while hearing distorted voices and such in game. it is a First person game, the puzzles will be a mix of physics and logic hopefully. and there will be real monster encounters, but yeah i haven't figured out a way to link all these together and have a solid structure of Storyline -> Objective -> Puzzels -> Enemy -> Win and what not Thank you for your comments Billy, |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
If it was me I would ditch the dreams and coma idea. In fact someone already posted in the ideas section a few weeks ago about a game where you are in a dream trying to solve puzzles to retrieve memories or something. Also why would he have a lantern in a castle, seems like if he was in a dream he would just be walking about; to me the fact that he is in a dream somehow weakens the lantern gameplay mechanic. Also it's less of a survival horror game if you're in a dream, gives me the sense of yeah if I die I'm in a dream so who cares and also these monsters aren't real. I liked the original idea about ghosts, you should go in the way of a haunted mansion type thing. That's just my opinion anyway : ) |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
@shadowflar3: Developer A: "Hey! This game focuses on story. We've probably written the most epic story ever! It's about [...]" The concept of amnesia isn't overdone though, since games don't use its full potential. You can make an original story with amnesia, it's just a question of how you use it. Don't use it to avoid telling the beginning of your story (see: every game with amnesia ever made ever). The idea I had wasn't about full amnesia, but a "partial" one. Your character remembers, but the memories aren't quite right yet. Some details are off, some are missing. @MrBillyGoatsGruff: |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
@TheSniperFan: So true. The phenomenon is especially blooming in modding where everyone and his cousin has a horror game idea for an FPS engine. They can maybe make some levels but don't know how to code / model so they just skip the plot thing altogether and just straight into first person view. "He just wakes up, doesn't know where he is". I bet most of these cheap cases are also planned to end up with "it was all just a dream" type ending, but luckily almost none of them live to see a release due to the fact that the "team" consists of "idea guys" without any sense of what is feasible. The truth is that having a proper introduction to the player character, location and the general setting is vital for a good story which in turn is vital for immersion and the experience of horror. I have to say the R.E.M. project shares many of the novice aspects (young developer age, horror fps, darkness overuse, amnesia card) but it already has gameplay material which means it has surpassed the "noob threshold" in my books. The lighting I hear they are already improving, amnesia is really some kind of memory distortion (I hope you guys create intro of some kind) and they seem to be in a phase where they prototype their gameplay together with the story objectives which is promising. Having patience to try, ask for feedback and improve is always a good sign.
I am also more fascinated by a haunted mansion of sorts approach. Dream world is less threatening to the player but on the other hand allows for more abstract and imaginative environments. But then again Silent Hill did abstract environments and explained none of how streets suddenly turned into rusted steel grating floating in void. And it was _really_ scary. I would reckon dream world is better oriented towards fantasy than survival horror but the truth is none of us have yet to see MrBillyGoatsGruff rendition of it. Maybe it will be scarier than anything else and turn our opinions around? |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
@plinkie:
And? It's about how an idea is being realized. I wouldn't drop an idea because others have done it badly.
I think Mr. Krueger would love to have a little talk with you. On the flipside a dream opens many new possibilities by not restricting the developer by realism. |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
I didn't say others have done it badly. If anything it's an overused idea that has been done well. Also Nightmare On Elm Street is a film. I imagine Nightmare On Elm Street : The Game would be pretty awful.
I guess I was just more opinionated with it because I have played a demo prototype of the game and I was giving feedback on which idea I preferred and would work better with what he has right now in gameplay form.
You'll probably have to give more info on what these 'fears' are that he has to fight. Once we know that then the objective could become obvious. Collecting pictures and memories is too generic sounding too, only words really which don't specify a purpose. |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
Please elaborate. You say it's overused, but also said this:
Those probably count to the most overused horror scenarios alongside abandoned hospitals and industrial facilities. |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
I'm referring to the gameplay we previously discussed about sucking in ghosts with the vacuum mechanic. The only other thing I can think of is Ghostbusters but if it is tweaked heavily then it should be nowhere near similar in the end. Yes the dream mechanic is overused in the survival horror field but the fact that a haunted mansion location is overused is kind of irrelevant, I'm only really interested in the gameplay here. |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
Ahhh, I see what you're up to. The developers need to create a solid concept including the plot before starting to create the assets. There's no point in creating those when you don't even know what your game is about. Edited by: TheSniperFan |
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Jul 17 2013 Anchor | ||
Hey guys, thanks heaps for your open discussion, was really good to read through and brain storm ideas and reflect on what i had previously created. Just for some back story, i'm an 18 year old from Australia, and am making this game on my own, i am doing a course currently and have been for the past 4-5 months. This was actually just a project i used to learn and build up my coding and knowledge of the engine ( Being Unity ) so none of it was professionally thought out or planned really. I know this is by far the worst way to do it ha, but once i began to really start making the game i liked it more, so i wanted to put a lot of time into it and see how well i could make it. Hopefully this explains my lack of ideas for things that should have been decided before putting key to script, and the lack of direction. But i'm very glad you guys are open for discussion on the topic as it helps me figure out what the industry has and what it needs, as well as what i've got and what i need gone haha i will give you more information about the monsters and such after i've fleshed out the encounters a bit and they are more interesting. so i'll keep in touch! Cheers! Billy, |
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Jul 18 2013 Anchor | ||
So that's what the game was like before? Sounds much like Luigi's Mansion to me? |
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Jul 18 2013 Anchor | ||
As described. It's a semi-realistic survival horror game though, not a cutesy platformer. |
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