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Colefrick	Oct 25 2013 Anchor
Flagship Studios is an old school company that closed back in 2008 due to financial problems, but now they are returning with a new owner and a whole new staffing team. Hey guys, Cole here CEO of Flagship Studios, Since they closed in 08 after some DCMA problems with blizzard we have gathered funds from around the offices here in Colorado to re-open the studio and begin making video games once again, even though we may be stuck with using Unity and A lot of other free software at the time being we are at least getting back on our feet. So my question in general is to the whole Indie DB community of if anyone even remembers Flagship Studios or has ever heard the name? Maybe even played their old video games like Hellgate London or Mythos, Which the original CEO's still hold rights too so they are no longer apart of our new studio... So leave your suggestions or game suggestion or hate letters to this thread and we will gladly get back to you with a response! -Signed Colefrick [Aka Cole William] CEO of FS Studios
figalot	Oct 25 2013 Anchor
I think every one remembers hellgate london, for better or worse. Whats your plan for a returning game? and how many in the studio? -- Someone wrote: Her?
grouchbag I art grouchier than thou.	Oct 26 2013 Anchor
Colorado?Used to live there.Heard of Mythos,but not Hellgate London.I have heard of Flagship,but know nothing about it.I wish your company the best of luck. -- "sweet" little old lady
Colefrick	Oct 26 2013 Anchor
figalot wrote: I think every one remembers hellgate london, for better or worse. Whats your plan for a returning game? and how many in the studio? Our current team is about 6-10 We have 3 - Graphic Designers 3 - Audio/Voice Actors 3 - Scripters & Terrain Designers 1 - Intern [Does paperwork etc] So yea, Small team but since we are making our first Comeback game free we plan not to have to worry about it that much.
Skaven	Oct 26 2013 Anchor
I see you still need a Composer in your team btw i really do create music
Colefrick	Oct 26 2013 Anchor
Skaven wrote: I see you still need a Composer in your team btw i really do create music If you want to join the team, just send an E-Mail to business@flagship-studios.net
Frogdice	Nov 9 2013 Anchor
Best of luck Cole! I hope you are able to do some cool things. In response to your post: 1) 2008 is not old school! Even in an industry as new as video games, 5 years is still new! 2) "Stuck" with using Unity? Unity is amazing! Embrace and be happy about it. 3) Did you guys just purchase the name? If the original CEO holds the rights to Hellgate and Mythos, what else was left? Again, I wish you much luck and good fortune. Running a company in this industry is not easy!
SinKing bumps me thread	Nov 9 2013 Anchor
I remember a Croation mapper, who made awesome maps for Hellgate at the time. I don't know what became of him or if he is still making games today. I was pretty impressed back then. You can use UDK for all your prototyping needs. When you decide you want to sell the game, you pay 90$ for the license and that's that. If you earn more than 50k, you pay 25% on what is beyond that. Example: you make 60k, you pay, 2500$ to Epic (50k free + 25%/10k). It's not such a monstrous deal. Unity is awesome, if you have a great coder and some time to develop your concept. It's also great if you invest some money into content, like AI or some proper shaders (unity is the only engine I know where you have to buy a 2-sided material ^^) On the whole, I think a well-equipped Unity will cost more than commercial UDK, unless you plan on making huge amounts of cash. Anyway, best of luck. Why exactly do you keep the old name? Do you plan on making games similar to Hellgate? I'm looking forward to hearing more. --
Colefrick	Nov 10 2013 Anchor
Frogdice wrote: Best of luck Cole! I hope you are able to do some cool things. In response to your post: 1) 2008 is not old school! Even in an industry as new as video games, 5 years is still new! 2) "Stuck" with using Unity? Unity is amazing! Embrace and be happy about it. 3) Did you guys just purchase the name? If the original CEO holds the rights to Hellgate and Mythos, what else was left? Again, I wish you much luck and good fortune. Running a company in this industry is not easy! The rights of the NAME were let go when they Closed in 08. Hellgate and Mythos are still held under a Patent/Copyright so we can't even think of touching them. We have hoped that we would have gotten applications from old employees of the company for getting a job but sadly reading the leaving message before they fully went away made it seem like they all went to blizzard. SinKing wrote: I remember a Croation mapper, who made awesome maps for Hellgate at the time. I don't know what became of him or if he is still making games today. I was pretty impressed back then. You can use UDK for all your prototyping needs. When you decide you want to sell the game, you pay 90$ for the license and that's that. If you earn more than 50k, you pay 25% on what is beyond that. Example: you make 60k, you pay, 2500$ to Epic (50k free + 25%/10k). It's not such a monstrous deal. Unity is awesome, if you have a great coder and some time to develop your concept. It's also great if you invest some money into content, like AI or some proper shaders (unity is the only engine I know where you have to buy a 2-sided material ^^) On the whole, I think a well-equipped Unity will cost more than commercial UDK, unless you plan on making huge amounts of cash. Anyway, best of luck. Why exactly do you keep the old name? Do you plan on making games similar to Hellgate? I'm looking forward to hearing more. Unity is only a temp engine for our first FREE INDIE GAME we are making. Once that gets released we plan to expand out to UDK Commercial and then contacting all ESRB's and so on... To answer the last part we plan to try to make something like Hellgate but due to Patent issues we might have to go on a different path than what it used to be..
Frogdice	Nov 11 2013 Anchor
Colefrick wrote: We have hoped that we would have gotten applications from old employees of the company for getting a job but sadly reading the leaving message before they fully went away made it seem like they all went to blizzard. Did you buy their offices, facilities, equipment or just the name? If just the name, why did you think that would make people want to come work there? Colefrick wrote: Unity is only a temp engine for our first FREE INDIE GAME we are making. Once that gets released we plan to expand out to UDK Commercial and then contacting all ESRB's and so on... UNITY is a lot more powerful than you think. Why is contacting the ESRB at the top of your list? /confused
Aurioch	Nov 11 2013 Anchor
I remember Hellgate London. Sadly, due to lack of money, it went under my radar... Good luck with your comeback!
Colefrick	Nov 14 2013 Anchor
Frogdice wrote: Colefrick wrote: We have hoped that we would have gotten applications from old employees of the company for getting a job but sadly reading the leaving message before they fully went away made it seem like they all went to blizzard. Did you buy their offices, facilities, equipment or just the name? If just the name, why did you think that would make people want to come work there? Colefrick wrote: Unity is only a temp engine for our first FREE INDIE GAME we are making. Once that gets released we plan to expand out to UDK Commercial and then contacting all ESRB's and so on... UNITY is a lot more powerful than you think. Why is contacting the ESRB at the top of your list? /confused Sorry i wrote the ESRB part late at night...You know how that goes Also we bought actually a few studio things from them with the purchase of the copyright stuff.. It was a pretty interesting day when we got it here in Colorado! It was like Christmas! UPDATE UPDATE ABOUT HELLGATE LONDON We were just informed by our Legal Department that Hellgate London's copyright holders ran out of money to withhold the copyright contract... Sooo.... We will maybe be continuing the Project! Also Update - We got our forums up and website designs are being finished... Sad Update - We use Skype as a secondary line unit for when our main office phones were being installed..So idk if anyone has experienced this but with Windows 7 - If you open ANY program that requires use of Speakers/Microphone it cuts off all noise and only way to fix it is by restarting...If anyone knows how to fix it please reply...
pushxtonotdie	Nov 15 2013 Anchor
I remember Hellgate:London, but I never played it. If I remember it used the source engine, and was one of the first to do so? Colorado, huh? I'm over in Denver. Ever go to the CIGDA/IGDA meetups? Good luck with the new studio! I'll keep my eyes peeled for news from you.
TerranAmbassador	Nov 15 2013 Anchor
Why did the original studio receive a DMCA from Blizzard? Looking at the studio's wikipedia page, all that's mentioned is "financial troubles". A DMCA takedown deals with copyright and intellectual property. What were you doing? -- I snark, therefore, I am. The reason behind this banner will be revealed in due time....
Colefrick	Nov 16 2013 Anchor
TerranAmbassador wrote: Why did the original studio receive a DMCA from Blizzard? Looking at the studio's wikipedia page, all that's mentioned is "financial troubles". A DMCA takedown deals with copyright and intellectual property. What were you doing? Blizzard got pissed at the old owners because they screwed over a contract they made about merchandise... We are trying to get the word out that we are NOT CLOSED! We are OPEN now! Check the forums HERE

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Colefrick

Oct 25 2013 Anchor

Flagship Studios is an old school company that closed back in 2008 due to financial problems, but now they are returning with a new owner and a whole new staffing team.

Hey guys, Cole here CEO of Flagship Studios, Since they closed in 08 after some DCMA problems with blizzard we have gathered funds from around the offices here in Colorado to re-open the studio and begin making video games once again, even though we may be stuck with using Unity and A lot of other free software at the time being we are at least getting back on our feet.

So my question in general is to the whole Indie DB community of if anyone even remembers Flagship Studios or has ever heard the name? Maybe even played their old video games like Hellgate London or Mythos, Which the original CEO's still hold rights too so they are no longer apart of our new studio...

So leave your suggestions or game suggestion or hate letters to this thread and we will gladly get back to you with a response!

-Signed Colefrick [Aka Cole William] CEO of FS Studios

figalot

Oct 25 2013 Anchor

I think every one remembers hellgate london, for better or worse.

Whats your plan for a returning game? and how many in the studio?

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Someone wrote: Her?

grouchbag I art grouchier than thou.

Oct 26 2013 Anchor

Colorado?Used to live there.Heard of Mythos,but not Hellgate London.I have heard of Flagship,but know nothing about it.I wish your company the best of luck. :thumbup:

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"sweet" little old lady

Colefrick

Oct 26 2013 Anchor

figalot wrote: I think every one remembers hellgate london, for better or worse.

Whats your plan for a returning game? and how many in the studio?

Our current team is about 6-10
We have
3 - Graphic Designers
3 - Audio/Voice Actors
3 - Scripters & Terrain Designers
1 - Intern [Does paperwork etc]

So yea, Small team but since we are making our first Comeback game free we plan not to have to worry about it that much.

Skaven

Oct 26 2013 Anchor

I see you still need a Composer in your team btw i really do create music

Colefrick

Oct 26 2013 Anchor

Skaven wrote: I see you still need a Composer in your team btw i really do create music

If you want to join the team, just send an E-Mail to business@flagship-studios.net

Frogdice

Nov 9 2013 Anchor

Best of luck Cole! I hope you are able to do some cool things. In response to your post:

1) 2008 is not old school! Even in an industry as new as video games, 5 years is still new!

2) "Stuck" with using Unity? Unity is amazing! Embrace and be happy about it.

3) Did you guys just purchase the name? If the original CEO holds the rights to Hellgate and Mythos, what else was left?

Again, I wish you much luck and good fortune. Running a company in this industry is not easy!

SinKing bumps me thread

Nov 9 2013 Anchor

I remember a Croation mapper, who made awesome maps for Hellgate at the time. I don't know what became of him or if he is still making games today. I was pretty impressed back then.

You can use UDK for all your prototyping needs. When you decide you want to sell the game, you pay 90$ for the license and that's that. If you earn more than 50k, you pay 25% on what is beyond that. Example: you make 60k, you pay, 2500$ to Epic (50k free + 25%/10k). It's not such a monstrous deal. Unity is awesome, if you have a great coder and some time to develop your concept. It's also great if you invest some money into content, like AI or some proper shaders (unity is the only engine I know where you have to buy a 2-sided material ^^)

On the whole, I think a well-equipped Unity will cost more than commercial UDK, unless you plan on making huge amounts of cash. Anyway, best of luck. Why exactly do you keep the old name? Do you plan on making games similar to Hellgate? I'm looking forward to hearing more.

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Colefrick

Nov 10 2013 Anchor

Frogdice wrote: Best of luck Cole! I hope you are able to do some cool things. In response to your post:

1) 2008 is not old school! Even in an industry as new as video games, 5 years is still new!

2) "Stuck" with using Unity? Unity is amazing! Embrace and be happy about it.

3) Did you guys just purchase the name? If the original CEO holds the rights to Hellgate and Mythos, what else was left?

Again, I wish you much luck and good fortune. Running a company in this industry is not easy!

The rights of the NAME were let go when they Closed in 08.
Hellgate and Mythos are still held under a Patent/Copyright so we can't even think of touching them.
We have hoped that we would have gotten applications from old employees of the company for getting a job but sadly reading the leaving message before they fully went away made it seem like they all went to blizzard.

SinKing wrote: I remember a Croation mapper, who made awesome maps for Hellgate at the time. I don't know what became of him or if he is still making games today. I was pretty impressed back then.

You can use UDK for all your prototyping needs. When you decide you want to sell the game, you pay 90$ for the license and that's that. If you earn more than 50k, you pay 25% on what is beyond that. Example: you make 60k, you pay, 2500$ to Epic (50k free + 25%/10k). It's not such a monstrous deal. Unity is awesome, if you have a great coder and some time to develop your concept. It's also great if you invest some money into content, like AI or some proper shaders (unity is the only engine I know where you have to buy a 2-sided material ^^)

On the whole, I think a well-equipped Unity will cost more than commercial UDK, unless you plan on making huge amounts of cash. Anyway, best of luck. Why exactly do you keep the old name? Do you plan on making games similar to Hellgate? I'm looking forward to hearing more.

Unity is only a temp engine for our first FREE INDIE GAME we are making. Once that gets released we plan to expand out to UDK Commercial and then contacting all ESRB's and so on...
To answer the last part we plan to try to make something like Hellgate but due to Patent issues we might have to go on a different path than what it used to be..

Frogdice

Nov 11 2013 Anchor

Colefrick wrote:
We have hoped that we would have gotten applications from old employees of the company for getting a job but sadly reading the leaving message before they fully went away made it seem like they all went to blizzard.

Did you buy their offices, facilities, equipment or just the name? If just the name, why did you think that would make people want to come work there?

Colefrick wrote: Unity is only a temp engine for our first FREE INDIE GAME we are making. Once that gets released we plan to expand out to UDK Commercial and then contacting all ESRB's and so on...

UNITY is a lot more powerful than you think.

Why is contacting the ESRB at the top of your list?

/confused

Aurioch

Nov 11 2013 Anchor

I remember Hellgate London. Sadly, due to lack of money, it went under my radar...

Good luck with your comeback!

Colefrick

Nov 14 2013 Anchor

Frogdice wrote:

Colefrick wrote:
We have hoped that we would have gotten applications from old employees of the company for getting a job but sadly reading the leaving message before they fully went away made it seem like they all went to blizzard.

Did you buy their offices, facilities, equipment or just the name? If just the name, why did you think that would make people want to come work there?

Colefrick wrote: Unity is only a temp engine for our first FREE INDIE GAME we are making. Once that gets released we plan to expand out to UDK Commercial and then contacting all ESRB's and so on...

UNITY is a lot more powerful than you think.

Why is contacting the ESRB at the top of your list?

/confused

Sorry i wrote the ESRB part late at night...You know how that goes
Also we bought actually a few studio things from them with the purchase of the copyright stuff.. It was a pretty interesting day when we got it here in Colorado! It was like Christmas!

UPDATE UPDATE ABOUT HELLGATE LONDON

We were just informed by our Legal Department that Hellgate London's copyright holders ran out of money to withhold the copyright contract... Sooo.... We will maybe be continuing the Project!

Also Update - We got our forums up and website designs are being finished...

Sad Update - We use Skype as a secondary line unit for when our main office phones were being installed..So idk if anyone has experienced this but with Windows 7 - If you open ANY program that requires use of Speakers/Microphone it cuts off all noise and only way to fix it is by restarting...If anyone knows how to fix it please reply...

pushxtonotdie

Nov 15 2013 Anchor

I remember Hellgate:London, but I never played it. If I remember it used the source engine, and was one of the first to do so?

Colorado, huh? I'm over in Denver. Ever go to the CIGDA/IGDA meetups?

Good luck with the new studio! I'll keep my eyes peeled for news from you.

TerranAmbassador

Nov 15 2013 Anchor

Why did the original studio receive a DMCA from Blizzard? Looking at the studio's wikipedia page, all that's mentioned is "financial troubles". A DMCA takedown deals with copyright and intellectual property. What were you doing?

--

I snark, therefore, I am.

The reason behind this banner will be revealed in due time....

Colefrick

Nov 16 2013 Anchor

TerranAmbassador wrote: Why did the original studio receive a DMCA from Blizzard? Looking at the studio's wikipedia page, all that's mentioned is "financial troubles". A DMCA takedown deals with copyright and intellectual property. What were you doing?

Blizzard got pissed at the old owners because they screwed over a contract they made about merchandise...

We are trying to get the word out that we are NOT CLOSED!

We are OPEN now!

Check the forums HERE