English *%$!!, do you speak it?!?! Thread

I propose that, along with the currently available statistics featured in the General Modification Information section of each mod, information regarding the primary nationality of the mod's team members be provided as well. This will save me plenty of time. If the nationality of the mod's team members happens to be that of a country whose government cites English as its' official language and the person responsible for press releases is incapable of writing at a 4th grade level I will know to immediately discount the mod. I would say that the majority of press releases read as if they were spell checked by Dan Quayle and either proof-read or written by learning disabled chimps whose mothers were subjected to untested pharmaceuticals. In such instances, it is easy to assume that the corresponding mod itself will have little to offer. If, on the other hand, the nationality of the mod's team members happens to be that of a country whose government doesn't cite English as its' official language, the mod needn't necessarily be as useless as the press releases regarding it.

Or maybe just have a spellcheck built in to messages >.>

Honestly you should worry about the skill level they have and the artistic value of the mod. Many people just do no have the greatest grammar yet carry the skill set to make something or do something "you" cant.

As for the idea you bring. On the profile when you visit the site they listed. If you see another language that you cant understand I would suggest that this is a clue of a team who speaks a different language.

A person's grammatical prowess has little to nothing to do with their ability to make a kick ass mod. That should have nothing to do with how much credibility you give them, or whether you discount it or not.

I concur

I disagree. A quality product is a quality product, start to finish.

I know some extremely talented modders who lack the social skills of others their age. They have incredible skill because it's all they do, and they can't type for shit because they don't have many people to chat with. It's just their lifestyle, and I don't care if they can't spell "soop" or "nite" because their mods are a lot of fun. So no, I don't agree.

No me parece una gran idea, pero si quieres paso a un idioma que manejo un poco mejor.

But you can't deny that it is true that seeing a press release, news post, or anything so publicly released having poor spelling, grammar, etc... it doesn't make you think well of that mod. Honestly now, a 'good' mod should be able to find a 'PR guy', and I don't see how anyone would hire a PR guy who failed third grade english in a special-needs school.

"Long story short on this post : Flags can be done but are not necessary, do other more necessary work before"

Personally, if a team cannot captivate someone with an introduction, press release, synopsis, what have you, then I'd say this goes hand in hand with any other aspect of media in any form.

"Oh the plot, scenes, direction, and dialogue itself was great, but the actors were as skillful as half a dozen chimpanzees sharing the same kazoo attempting to perform their own symphony"

It is still a part of the modification, I mean if you cannot get someone to pay attention to the modification or game with poor words, then you'll have far fewer people playing it. If you cannot show off some great art design and/or graphical power, then you'll have far fewer people playing it. If you cannot reveal to people awesome combat/gameplay systems and a fun game overall, then you'll have far fewer people playing it.

But, on the note of the topic, I'm doubtful anyone that would take note of a nationality could not figure out to a degree from written text of a person not entirely fluent in English their said nationality. Thus, the problem is not identifying which country, but, four factions of people.

Speakers of English origin yet are inarticulate
Speakers of non-English origin
Readers that do not mind speakers of non-English origins
Readers that do mind speakers of non-English origins

What it comes down to is that readers that do mind speakers of non-English origins are morons, the fact of the matter is, it may be a tad difficult to understand, and yes a PR Manager or whatever you wish to call them would be nice to have on hand, however, this is a person that has taken the time to at the very least begin to learn a second lanaguage.

And thus speakers of non-English origin are not the problem here as readers that do not mind speakers of non-English origins, as the name would imply, do not mind, so we can eliminate both groups here.

The largest problem stems from speakers of English origin yet are inarticulate, that is, a person speaks English but cannot form a proper sentence. And these are people that everyone attempts to avoid, a person that cannot take concern over their grammar and spelling towards the modification they oversee is best forgotten, as is the modification more than likely.

So, I disbelieve that country flags are necessary next to a modifcation or a person, I wouldn't say these are a bad idea by any stretch but, if there is work to be done elsewhere, I'd focus on that before hand.

I can agree that poor spelling and grammar can turn some away, but I don't believe categorizing by nationality will solve the problem. There are plenty of people with English as a native language who have the spelling of a pre-schooler. There's not really an effective way of sorting through that.

I dont give a crap about grammar and english, but if your gonna post news, or a mod profile .. thats when I care

Tei has poor english, but I LOVE his english. It's hilarious, and yet he always gets his point through. He's lovable like a soft plush teddy

Oh, and to whoever said the thing about half a dozen chimpanzees sharing the same kazoo, that's hilarious! Ha, ha, ha! I'm going to use that somewhere.

Spellbound.sourceforge.net
- For Mozilla Firefox 0.9+

Iespell.com
- For Internet Explorer

nice find fizznix

I can see your point, but you're being a little extreme there...

Heck, INtense! makes his fair share of typos around modDB; are you saying that it makes this a horrible place, and that it should be discounted from any kind of consideration?

Dude, my friend asks me how to spell things about every 5 minutes in class but he can map, model, model animate, and code... that is almost an entire mod team in itself

Yeah, it's kind of hard to be totally accurate in your spelling. So long as you get the message across, it's not so bad

I heartily agree that people who expect to actually get people to join their mod need to prove that they aren't a 13 year old when they type something. When I see bad grammar, poor sentence structure, etc. etc., it says to me that the people running the mod will drop it in a matter of weeks.

This has nothing to do with social skills. It has everything to do with caring about every part of your mod and putting the time and dedication into it that is required to write properly. ::sigh::

Edited by: iCeDaLe

^Perfect explanation..

There is always a dictionary... i can't spell worth crap, but dictionaries are your friends.

Get over it. Not everyone online is a perfect speller. As long as the message is brought across...

Besides, I'm sure the majority of you hardly read the descriptions. You just want to see media

That's the problem though Karuto..most of the time the message ISN't brought across. This can either be due to not being able to express ideas due to a bad handle on the english language, or because the mod just isn't well thought-out in the least bit.

And yes, I care more about the descriptions than I do the media most of the time.

I use jDictionary, but that will not enhance my english. I dont know english, but I have learned a bit to speak with other modders. English is very easy to learn, at least to my level of crappynesss

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