Big Election Thread

Well guys, the elections are still going on, Kerry and Bush... Tough election. Who did you or want to vote for? Why do you want him to win?

Let us try to keep this a safe thread, no bashing, that could all happen through your own private time.

btw, i say kerry

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Nader, because he is not Bush or Kerry. Plus his platform is not to bad in itself.

Bush, I believe he handled the September 11 attacks very well, even though the September 11 attacks are one of the main reasons his campaign is hurting right now. Also I think Kerry is a hippie and I hate hippies (they may sound ignorant, but its easier to say hippie than go into a 2 paragraph speech about what he did during the Vietnam War)

Anyone except for Bush. The only good he is doing for anyone right now is for himself. Kerry or Nader is my pick. I don't think I could put up with another four years of Bush's crap.

Oh yeah can all this crap end when the elctions are over please??? This is getting really old

I'm all for what Hatel3breed said.

Looks like Bush is gonna win

Bush 246
Kerry 206

First one to 270 right?

kerry commited treason, i don't see how people vote for him. i don't think bush is a liar but a lot of people do, but he never consorted with and encouraged the enemy's of the US.

Kerry commited treason?

Are you talking about how he spoke out against Vietnam?

If Europeans were aloud to vote, Bush seriously would have gotten below 5%...

[Zaphod wrote: on Wed 3rd, Nov 2004 @ 1:26:08am]If Europeans were aloud to vote, Bush seriously would have gotten below 5%...

hahahh.

yeah, well this thing is really upsetting me. i in my own opinion think kerry should win. its for america, and its best for us as a country. well whatever, we have war fanatics everwhere. oh yeah thats right though, war is great, and we don't care yet, even though people are already being drafted as we speak huh?

i'm very upset about this all.

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If speaking out against war in Vietnam is treason, then all your hippie parents should be living in Africa now

Speaking against the Vietnam war isn't wrong. The Vietnam War itself was wrong. It was unjust, unneeded and immoral.

Yeah! *puffff*

Uh, Kerry helped Vietnam become communist. ALL BECAUSE OF KERRY WE LOST THE WAR. Thats what he meant commited treason.

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UberSoldat wrote: Uh, Kerry helped Vietnam become communist. ALL BECAUSE OF KERRY WE LOST THE WAR. Thats what he meant commited treason.

vietnam was not lost or won. it was a stupid war because the US was really for stopping communism at the time. and also, kerry did not help vietnam become communist, it was already a communist country. The only guilt kerry has is being an asshole, NOT treason.

Now if you take a look at bush here, look at what hes gotten us into?

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Vientnam was a stupid war, though we couldve won and fought off communism if Kerry didn't cause trouble for his platoon or to give the opposition plans of what we are doing. Basically we couldve WON. Second he didn't get us into this. Clinton did , since clinton didn't capture Osama Bin Landen.

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UberSoldat wrote: Vientnam was a stupid war, though we couldve won and fought off communism if Kerry didn't cause trouble for his platoon or to give the opposition plans of what we are doing. Basically we couldve WON. Second he didn't get us into this. Clinton did , since clinton didn't capture Osama Bin Landen.

not true. vietnam was a tough war, and we pulled out when we realized we weren't fighting for much. and it was 2001 when the 9/11 attack took place, bush when into presidency in 2000.

So doesn't mean it wasn't Clintons fault. Clinton let a fugitive lose, and the fugitive was the cause of 9/11.

Yes, Vietnam was a stupid war, but not for the reason that you are asserting. Why, in your opinion UberSoldat, did we need to purge the world of communism? Why did we need to kill people not because they were of any threat to us or anyone else, but because we didn't agree with them? Sounds familiar doesn't it? Reminds me a lot of what Hitler was doing, just on a much more sublime level. Yes, Vietnam was a stupid war.

Vietnam was nowhere near won and if there was any chance of victory the price would have been far far greater than what it was, and osama is not entierly clintons fault he has been known as a threat for a while.

Come on. Osama was in Clintons hands. That means it was Clintons fault. Clinton couldve of PREVENTED 9/11. Second, Sajt, I do know my history. And I know the fact that Kerry helped out the the bad events which occured during vietnam.

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UberSoldat wrote: Come on. Osama was in Clintons hands. That means it was Clintons fault. Clinton couldve of PREVENTED 9/11

how would've clinton prevented it? bush was in presidency. i dont know if you guys remember, but when the 9/11 memo was given to bush he didn't pay attention to it. the point ist hat bush was the president, not clinton, and what happened then happen. also osama attacked for his religious beliefs. even after 9/11, bush in his speeches just made it worse.

but even know, does it matter now? 9/11 is back there now, we're talking about now. Bush has put us in a position we dont want to be in. and he hasnt done much to fix anything.

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Uber, we had many opportunities to kill Hitler in the 30s, but we didn't. Was the holocaust our fault? No.

Clinton could have prevented 9/11, but during his Presidency, Osama didn't seem to be any threat, and we were trying to resolve the conflict peacefully.

To put a little spin on it, Reagan sponsored the Taliban, in case you weren't aware. Republicans make mistakes too.

BUSH WASN"T IN PRESIDENCY WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT!!! DUH!!! Bush was most wanted for a very long time, way before Bush Senior. Get your facts straight ChopChop. Clinton couldve prevented. So don't blame it on Bush.

Sajt!! Your kidding right. Osama was world terrorist. Most wanted. How can you say he isn't a threat. Thats like saying Hitler is a cute kind little baby.

Second I'm not Republican dude. Stop thinking that.

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