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Depth is being planned as a stealth-centric team-game for the Unreal Engine 3.0 In Depth , two teams of adversaries square off in an underwater world, with very different objectives. The Ocean Predators are a group of notoriously ill tempered sharks who's stomping ground always seems to be closeby sunken wrecks. They hunt in packs, and woe to anyone who gets too close to the valuables they are protecting. The Fortune Divers are a group of greed-driven men and women who have decided that the possibility of sunken treasures at the bottom of the ocean is motivation enough to put aside their fears and take the plunge. They operate in teams, and are mostly defenseless, but for a small collection of gadgets which can ward off predators - temporarily. The premise is straightforward - As a diver you must explore a series of cavernous wrecks ranging from Sunken 18th Century Galleys and Second World War battleships to submerged ruins of long lost cities in an effort to recover valuable artifacts...

Report RSS Behind the Mod: Alex James Quick

Fresh off his victory in winning the Editor's Choice Award for Best Multiplayer Mod in 2006, modder Alex James Quick is setting out to bring his mod Killing Floor to a dynamic close, while setting his sights on a new project for the Unreal 3 Engine.

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Fresh off his victory in winning the Editor's Choice Award for Best Multiplayer Mod in 2006, modder Alex James Quick is setting out to bring his mod Killing Floor to a dynamic close, while setting his sights on a new project for the Unreal 3 Engine.

Deep green sea.
Deep green sea.


“My next mod is going to be really cool," Quick said. "It’s called Depth and it is using a concept very similar to what Killing Floor was originally supposed to be about: class based deathmatch combat, with two teams of totally different creatures. In this case, the creatures will be divers and sharks."

Both the divers and the sharks, in addition to killing one another, are each tasked with different objectives that need to be completed in order to win. The divers are hunting desperately for treasure at the bottom of the ocean, which can be found in various sunken wreaks, while the sharks are trying to defend their home turf.

“I have a couple ideas for gameplay elements, but by and large it is all going to be about visuals and basic, solid gameplay," Quick said. "All I really want to get across this time is atmosphere, even more than I did in Killing Floor. If you look at the Unreal Tournament 3 engine, there are a lot of effects you can get with it that will push the envelope on what people can see in a mod. I have a lot of good cool stuff in mind for making it look immersive and atmospheric.”

Using the Unreal Ed 4 tool that came coupled with the recently released RoboBlitz, Quick has begun creating assets and environmental static meshes for the mod. He's also hoping to tie the preliminary work into his University assignments and kill two birds with one stone.

Currently, Quick is hard at work creating the final send-off for Killing Floor.

Killing Floor, in its latest form.
Killing Floor, in its latest form.


“It always happens that I say I’m not going to work on it at all, then I end up doing a shit-load of work that I hadn’t planned on doing," Quick said, laughing. "The 2.2 patch should, hopefully, come out in the next month or so. It’s going to be a significant upgrade. That’s going to be like the Rocky 6 of Killing Floor--It is going to end. It will be the final thing, because I really don’t want to contribute to it anymore after that.”

The 2.2 patch will feature a new weapon accuracy system that factors in character movement, new items, several balancing tweaks and a variety of bugfixes.

But while Killing Floor may soon come to a close, many people don't realize just how long it has been in development--or how many different engines it has been on.

Killing Floor didn’t start off as my mod," Quick said. "I didn’t create it originally. It was started by a couple guys from the UK as a total conversion for Battlefield 1942 and later for Battlefield: Vietnam. At the time, I had just gotten turned down by Galactic Conquest, a Star Wars mod, because I was still learning to do 3D modeling and they wanted someone that was totally pro at it. I started cruising around Planet Battlefield and I saw a saw a help request, so I got in touch with the team.”

When Quick arrived, the team was in a dismal situation. There was nobody on staff to create art assets, just a public relations coordinator and a web designer with high ambitions. For the next two months, Quick created all of the work they had to show for, all the while combating the difficulty of modding for the Battlefield engines at the time.

Quick's first mod, a Baulder's Gate total conversion called
Quick's first mod, a Baulder's Gate total conversion called "The Legend of Deep Water," was never completed.


Finally, he left.

"I quit and moved to a new engine,” Quick said. "The actual team leader was really understanding when I left. He said that since I was doing all of the work anyway, it was really my choice. The co-leader, though, he got fed up and launched a spam attack against me on the forums. I guess he figured it out in the end. I pretty much took over the mod by doing all of the work for it, so it wasn’t so much of a hostile takeover as it was that they didn’t have what was required to contribute to the mod they wanted to see.”

The Battlefield incarnation quickly faded away after Quick departed, with nobody on staff to generate the extensive content they were looking for.

Now on his own, Quick had free reign to build Killing Floor into anything he saw fit.

“I tried to incorporate a lot of their ideas into the original version of Killing Floor, though," Quick said. "Killing Floor, for me, started out as a tribute to two things. I had been watching the progress of the Out of Hell mod for a couple of years at that point and was really impressed with the visuals. Killing Floor was a sort of tribute to that, a kind of Out of Hell junior. Next, I wanted to pay tribute to 28 Days Later at the same time, while riffing on it a bit. After that, it took on a life of its own and morphed into whatever the hell it is now.”

Quick himself, reciting his favorite soliloquy from
Quick himself, reciting his favorite soliloquy from "Much Ado About Nothing."


This morphing process has been going on for almost three years now, a process which has garnered much critical acclaim from the modding community and a sizable number of awards, especially on this site.

“You need to start with something really small, then build up," Quick said. "Killing Floor began with just a map. Then I added a gun. Then I added a skin. Then I made more maps, more creatures, until it all snowballs together. I’ve heard a lot of people talking ‘doomsday’ talk about modding, but a lot of that is just irrelevant melodrama. The expectations on modders have raised, so people do need to work smarter than they have in the past.

“Too many teams start with overambitious concepts and get hooked on the idea of creating the next retail-quality game. People don’t realize that some of these big ideas are just unfeasible. To say that it is tougher these days for modders is true, but if you start with a tight and manageable concept and work your way up from there, then you’ll be alright.”

Quick laughed and said that modding was just a natural progression from his general gaming habits.

“In the future, I’ll probably stick my fingers in Crysis a couple of times, since it just looks so cool," Quick said. "I might also open STALKER up to see how it renders lighting effects and things, but Unreal is what I’m following and I plan to stick with it.”

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[flesh]sniper1
[flesh]sniper1 - - 104 comments

hey this guy has the same concept of building game that i have, start with a simple lose idea and go from there

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Thestjester
Thestjester - - 252 comments

KF was an amazing modification for UT2004. Was also one of my favorites, it was simple and entertaining at the same time. Easy to get into, and even better when playing along side 4 of your friends. Great mod, nice interview, looking forward to depth ;)

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drunkill
drunkill - - 570 comments

pretty intresting. I'd like to see more!

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(ska)Diesel
(ska)Diesel - - 76 comments

Cool interview. Depth sounds like a really cool idea.

Killing Floor was my reason for buying UT 2K4.

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methy
methy - - 1,221 comments

Nice read. Cheers Alex and Joe.

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INtense! Staff
INtense! - - 4,098 comments

I really enjoyed reading this, since for some reason I am oddly fascinated by what it takes to make a mod, the issues and changes and re-designs that happen along the way.

Keep it up!

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Capital88
Capital88 - - 324 comments

Very cool interview. Depth sounds fantastic, especially since I studied sharks for so long.

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INtense! Staff
INtense! - - 4,098 comments

how do you control the shark thou? Its not like a shark can "swim backwards"

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TKAzA
TKAzA - - 3,154 comments

alex you look tawit ,yes very tawit
yeesss, hehe

nice feature guys

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Grobi
Grobi - - 64 comments

We need more of these. I like reading how modders begin and get to where they are now, and its nice to have people in the spotlight every now and again.

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razorb
razorb - - 500 comments

nice interview, ur making quite the portfolio for urself in the longrun ;) keep it up! heh

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SinKing
SinKing - - 3,119 comments

Killing Floor is a great mod. Once you pack up with some goo fighters yourself, you find it hard to quit the game. Thanx for making this, Mickey Blue Eyes and good luck with Sharks!

SinKing

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MrTambourineMan
MrTambourineMan - - 717 comments

Cool, I wan't more ( huh Stephen King said in onw of his short stories ( Sometimes they come back AFAIK) that word 'cool' is as dead as Buddy Holly hehe COOL

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P4R4.be
P4R4.be - - 79 comments

fun to read!

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zombieOnion
zombieOnion - - 632 comments

Wohoo ;) we are getting "names" in this "buisness!"
Always interesting to read :) Pity that BG2 mod died, screenshot looks awesome!

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killerzombie336
killerzombie336 - - 7 comments

how do i dwnload it theres alWAYS ERRORS

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