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Russian Anschluss
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What will the world do if Russia continues on a path of expansion, especially considering what happened in the 20th century.
Poll: Strawpoll.me
I'm actually not going to pay attention, because I don't care.
I am however, confused by the American media, which says: "You can't take the Ukraine because you want it."...did these people take American history?
Forget about history! Long live 'Murica!
Ohh please, America is invading different countries every few weeks and everyone turns a blind eye. Russia takes one tiny dot on a map without any bloodshed and everyone acts like it's the apocalypse.
there has been bloodshed...
(a Tatar was tortured and murdered and dumped in the street by the Russia "militia" to keep them out of the poles, plus I believe there has been deaths of some Ukraine soldiers who were at the time no combatant prisoners.
but that's not the issue, the problem is that it is expansionism. But even then if you haven't noticed, the west isn't doing anything because it was voted on and is technically legal (just like Nazis takeover of Austria was legal. (even if minorities and the opposition wasn't allowed to vote and that some of the ballets were already marked yes before the vote even started).
The problem will come if Russia moves on the rest of Ukraine, not because it would be military action in another country, but because this event has made it clear Russia wants to expand its borders.
I really doubt the west will jut let Russia expand unchecked in Eastern Europe,
The problem is that the West for all its rhetoric does not believe in the concept of countries changing, this is why Russia & China are continuing to be treated like some cheap villain by the Western media whenever they do anything. The West only need to realize that Russia & China just want their "place under the sun".
Oh, and self-determination is always subordinate to the wants & wishes of major powers who are interfering at the moment... to pretend otherwise is a delusion.
The politics of imperial powers are indeed far different than that of mighty nations such as Albania. Making what they would see as a dedicated effort, nothing much greater than a decision between doing or not doing something.
The West's worry over Russia though lies mostly with its culture, since power their's isn't almost exclusively clean and corporate like in the US. Sure the US hosts an occasional foreign imperial excursion of course but nonetheless domestically its very stable compared to most of the world. Plus the US hasn't annexed anything for at least a century, unless you want to count US territory electing to gain statehood. So as it stands, the US is pretty uninteresting and predictable. At worst you could be a brown person living at the site of Murika's next **** measuring competition, but at least they have the common courtesy to not annex the pile of rubble.
We believe in the concept of countries changing as it has continued to happen. Take Darfur, South Sudan, Somalia, the states of former Yugoslavia, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Yemen for example. Those countries had either split or expanded from their original borders in recent history and they're still around today, mostly doing so by one form of diplomatic process to another( although former Yugoslavia case was to end their wars.)
It is fine and dandy that both your country and Russia want to find their place under the sun (again.) However the difference is in the methods that're used and the approach. What Russia is using now is an aggressive method of furthering its own interests and, proven by history, it is guaranteed to provoke a response to any nation that is next to the action, has some form of written agreement with whoever is directly involved, or has some interest in said action. China on the other hand furthers its own interest in a more patient and subtle way. So far, no bells have been rung as the methods that have been and are being used by your country are not rubbing most in the wrong way and are not currently concerned with what your country in doing and how its being done.
Our worry right now is that the events that have happened in Crimea are reminiscent of what the Germans did eighty, ninety years ago in Czechoslovakia. The Germans occupied the parts of Czechoslovakia that had mostly German speakers under the pretense that it was to protect the German speaking population west of Czechoslovakia (when that area was called "Sudetenland.") It seemed fine, they did that and occupied and annexed the small bits of Czechoslovakia that had the Germans there. But they later went on ahead and occupied the rest of Czechoslovakia. What has happened in Crimea is uncomfortably similar to what happened then and we're scared of a repeat in events. Course that could be the other reason why we're aiming for economic solutions to avoid another war.
Both sides just want to protect their interests. Russia has some facilities in Crimea and NATO wants those for themselves. Also I think Russia has the right to question the new "government's" validity. As far as I see, Russia has no plans for invasion or spreading an empire. I do think that they're being too aggressive about this, but I guess with what Georgia did, they're not taking any chances.
I don't believe Russia will go full Anschluss on its neighbours, and besides that, it wasn't an invasion, it was a referendum, Crimea asked its people what they wanted.
There was a military intervention, yes, but it wasn't a hostile takeover, if the Crimeans had voted to remain part of Ukraine while restoring the 1992 constitution, Russia would have to respect the results.
Someone may have altered the results, yes, but the world, instead of sending representants to be sure it would not happen, was to busy calling the referendum illegal.