recruiting for - duke3d source Thread

Hi, I want to start to develop a mod based on duke nukem 3d on the source enginge. If any one who can do mapping, coding/scripting , modeling/comipling and all that is needed for a good mod is interested plz contact me.
Im thinking of making it a multiplayer mod.

Guess I better handle the traditional first question

What role will you play in this team?

Gibberstein wrote: Guess I better handle the traditional first question

What role will you play in this team?

I think I will be working with the maps. I havent released any "expert" maps but I have been pritty good since my last release.

I'll take the unpopular traditional second, then.

You do realise that anything 'Duke' is going to recieve an immediate cease and desist order? People have had them for map layouts, let alone actual representations of the character or setting...

ambershee wrote: I'll take the unpopular traditional second, then.

You do realise that anything 'Duke' is going to recieve an immediate cease and desist order? People have had them for map layouts, let alone actual representations of the character or setting...

can u plz explain more what u said i didn't relly get it

3DRealms are very (abnormally) protective over the Duke Nukem franchise. It's likely that when they discover the mod, they'll send it a Cease and Desist order; wherein they'll demand that the mod stops production, or distribution, whichever comes first. If you don't comply with their wishes, they can actually follow this up with full legal action, although I don't think it's ever gotten so far as for an actual suit to have happened.

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ambershee wrote: 3DRealms are very (abnormally) protective over the Duke Nukem franchise. It's likely that when they discover the mod, they'll send it a Cease and Desist order; wherein they'll demand that the mod stops production, or distribution, whichever comes first. If you don't comply with their wishes, they can actually follow this up with full legal action, although I don't think it's ever gotten so far as for an actual suit to have happened.

so you say that i have to ask for their promission? why i wont use any of there stuffs we will make our own then we dont steal anything.

Yes, you have to ask for their permission - and you are using their stuff; you're using their intellectual property

ok well I think I contacted right persons. Is it here I should contact them? Forums.3drealms.com
if so I did right

That'll do, I guess.

Good luck!

thx:P are you an concept artist? then maybe if we get permission you could draw duke ( I guess his name is duke, havent played it so much) on a front and profile view so it will be esier to model him.

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Even conversions of maps get C&D'd by 3DRealms, so don't think a full on TC would have better luck getting away.

*facepalm*

I'll take the third unpopular stance (and my normal one): Why not make something original?

There was a Duke mod being done on the Source engine YEARS ago by one guy (saw alot of it over at HL2World) who got C&D'd by 3D Realms for it. DNF will come one day. Just make something original... how hard is it? Sheesh.

noztrix wrote: thx:P are you an concept artist? then maybe if we get permission you could draw duke ( I guess his name is duke, havent played it so much) on a front and profile view so it will be esier to model him.

You barely know who the main character is and you want to make a mod about him? Am I the only one confused here?

Unless there's official word to say otherwise, I reckon his name is Jim

Am I the only person NOT waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to come?

I don't see why you don't want it to come. Given how long 3D Realms have had to develop it, and given how kick arse the first trailer they released looked, there is a VERY high chance it could potentially be the best game of all time. Of course, they could have spent all this time totally fucking it up.

Remember how STALKER was being developed for a long time and resulted in artistical "poop" ? Or Daikatana ? Perhaps 3D Realms will make me regret it, but I don't see that coming. Given that DNF will come out from the shack in the near future.

Jiffy_No0b wrote:

noztrix wrote: thx:P are you an concept artist? then maybe if we get permission you could draw duke ( I guess his name is duke, havent played it so much) on a front and profile view so it will be esier to model him.

You barely know who the main character is and you want to make a mod about him? Am I the only one confused here?

why does it mather if I know the character or not?

STALKER promised alot and did end up being kinda shit. But did you actually see the trailer that was posted a few years back? Looked friggin awesome. Much cooler than anything STALKER ever showed.

why does it mather if I know the character or not?

Of course it matters. You want create a remake of the game. I'd have no confidence in a leader who was designing something and doesn't even know the main characters name.

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Well 3drealms didn't allowed me to make a mod on duke3d. any ohter suggestion for a remake of a classic fps game?

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Wraiyth wrote: STALKER promised alot and did end up being kinda shit. But did you actually see the trailer that was posted a few years back? Looked friggin awesome. Much cooler than anything STALKER ever showed.

why does it mather if I know the character or not?

Of course it matters. You want create a remake of the game. I'd have no confidence in a leader who was designing something and doesn't even know the main characters name.

You have have a point. But unfortunately, in the game industry what matters is the end-result. Examples? Relatively not-long-a-go Frontlines:FFOW was released. After the hype, great, amazingly looking screenshots and movies - the game rendered to be unplayable like in an early beta. Go to Kaos Community forums if You wish. It's filled with flame and hatred against Kaos for releasing such an unpolished game. Now none plays the game. It can happen with Duke. Most probably will - it's my opinion though.

To noztrix : You need in-depth knowledge of the franchise You are going to recreate as a modification. It won't happen without it. Design process needs names, statistics, and lots of work to be as close as possible - or even be better - then the original games [ in this particular example ].

You can do whatever You want noztrix. It doesn't have to be Duke. Probably not worth getting shot by 3DRealms [ who where giving themselves piggyback rides instead of working, I wonder who is funding them anyway ]. That's how it is with modding. Main thing it has to be a fun and learning experience for You and Your team.

Wraiyth wrote: I don't see why you don't want it to come. Given how long 3D Realms have had to develop it, and given how kick arse the first trailer they released looked, there is a VERY high chance it could potentially be the best game of all time. Of course, they could have spent all this time totally fucking it up.

You seriously think it's going to be that good? The development time is not from working for a decade on one product, it's because they scrapped it and restarted a few times. It's just another Duke title...

noztrix wrote: Well 3drealms didn't allowed me to make a mod on duke3d. any ohter suggestion for a remake of a classic fps game?

Come up with something original. I really don't understand why you are bent on remaking classic fpses when you don't appear to have even properly played through them before.

Ennui wrote:

Wraiyth wrote: I don't see why you don't want it to come. Given how long 3D Realms have had to develop it, and given how kick arse the first trailer they released looked, there is a VERY high chance it could potentially be the best game of all time. Of course, they could have spent all this time totally fucking it up.

You seriously think it's going to be that good? The development time is not from working for a decade on one product, it's because they scrapped it and restarted a few times. It's just another Duke title...

noztrix wrote: Well 3drealms didn't allowed me to make a mod on duke3d. any ohter suggestion for a remake of a classic fps game?

Come up with something original. I really don't understand why you are bent on remaking classic fpses when you don't appear to have even properly played through them before.

well Im not really creative and then its esier to make a remake of a old game instead. but If someone here is creative maybe they want to come up with some new ideas and we can work on that I know people dont want to have a dev- leader who is not creative thats why I dont have to be a leader:P

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