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Fallout 2161 returns from oblivion, prepping for Fallout 4 CK.

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Well it has been several years since there has been any new news posted, but that is changing. This project has been a dream of mine (Dakcenturi) for years. I started it back when Fallout 3 was released and continued working on it into Fallout: New Vegas. However, there was a lot of other things going on at the time. A year before the project started I was married and shortly after my first son was born. As you can imagine these were some pretty big changes and it ate up a lot of my free time. I tried finding more help to fill in the gaps but it just wasn't working and then the project was put on indefinite hold.

Since then, I've gained a lot more experience as a developer and producer. Recently while looking for jobs I put together my design portfolio and Fallout 2161 was one of the topics. I always hated stopping this project and always wanted to return to working on it. Now is that time! With my family life settled down and in a routine I've decided to revisit this project and work on actually completing it this time around. So here we are.

As you all know (unless you've been living in a Vault for the last several months) the most recent game in the Fallout franchise, Fallout 4, has been released. Luckily with the work we completed before, very little is reliant on the specific engine. You may also be aware that Bethesda plans to release the construction kit for Fallout 4 *sometime* this year. This is bad and good. The downside is we can't just jump right in and start working on the mod. The upside is we can get some solid prep work in ahead of time which will let us jump in much quicker once the tools are released.

So now you may wonder, where are things currently? First up, I am re-teaching myself the creation kit. It has been a few years since I've really dug into it so I need to brush it off and re-familiarize myself. Second, we are organizing our project so that as we progress we can stay on track and if we pick up any additional volunteers we can more easily assign and delegate tasks. This includes cleaning up this page of old, outdated images and videos. Finally, we are currently working on our height maps for the game.

One big change from the philosophy of the original project is our intent to not only recreate the classic Fallout but to also add to it. As such, rather than simply having small areas to match the original locations we are creating game regions to allow a degree of the open world feel that is common place in Bethesda games and one of the things that make them great. To that end let's look at some of the progress on the height maps.

First, it's important to look at where we are coming from. For this we use the maps from the original Fallout and Fallout 2.

FO1 WorldMap

FO2 WorldMap

As you can probably tell there are some discrepancies between the two maps and the locations of Vault 13, NCR (Shady Sands), and Vault 15. After a lot of research and design decisions we've worked up our own map of the original Fallout. This will be one area where we stray from the original that won't have a huge impact on the game itself. (NOTE - This is still a WIP) Aside from making the locations more accurate to their originally intended design, there are other things influencing our decisions including new design work and most importantly limitations of the engine.

FO2161 WorldMap

From here we are using GIS data to generate height maps. This is a somewhat convoluted process and we haven't gotten the exact results we are looking for, but we are getting close. Here are a couple of images that show some of what we are working on:

Overall map test

The original goal was to just make California and part of Nevada as a whole. Obviously, with a small team this would leave a LOT of open space with nothing of interest. Add to that limitations of the game engine and we changed our plans to subsections of the global map. However, this overall world is still going to be important for our Fast Travel system.

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Once we have gotten the results we want repeatedly we will be writing up a tutorial for others interested in creating their own mods based off of real world locations. There are some great tutorials out there but they are outdated, missing images etc. So we will put together something updated and ready to go for those interested. We are using the Skyrim creation kit in order to test out our work since this is the closest engine to what we will be using in Fallout 4. As such, look for another update in a month or less where our goal is to show you some in game shots of our terrain in Skyrim.

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Neon-Ghost
Neon-Ghost

This is a pretty big undertaking, my question is though, will it be 1-1 scale?

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Dakcenturi Author
Dakcenturi

We won't be doing the whole area of California as that would just be a lot of wasted space. So we are working to split it up into sub regions and in those subregions the scale will be as close to 1-1 as we can get it within the limitations of the engine.

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Neon-Ghost
Neon-Ghost

That sounds like the proper way to go, which to be honest, I believe Bethesda should have gone with Fallout 4.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet

Wow epic news! A big surprise!

Some questions:
1. What's your opinion of Fallout the story mod for Fallout:New Vegas?
Are you competitors or will the projects benefit each other?

2. Fallout 4 has a real ****** dialog system. Will you be able to mod that? Will your project be limited to Fallout4s ****** dialog system or can you do more than that? New Vagas has a much better dialog system.

3. There are no traits in Fallout 4 and they've removed skills. Will you be able to mod that back? New Vegas has both traits and skills for example.


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hollowsmith
hollowsmith

Yeah, Fallout 4 dialog system gives me so much butthurt. As well as "You don't need Gun Runners anymore - make your stock scoped .50cal byonet-pistol with sticks and ****".

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Dakcenturi Author
Dakcenturi

1) I've spoken with them but there are some significant language barriers. They have made some good progress but their goals/time tables are a bit different from what we are trying to achieve. In either case, I am hopeful we can help each other out along the way.

2) There are already some mods that enahnce the dialog system. See here: Nexusmods.com So yes we will be enhancing it.

3) It is hard to say for certain how we will accomplish this without seeing the CK, but it is our goal. More on that after the CK is released. However, I will say, there is usually always a way to accomplish something we might just have to design it a little differently.

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet

thanks for the reply! good answers. let's hope the CK makes it possible to add back traits and skills

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Dakcenturi Author
Dakcenturi

I'm hopefully optimistic it will. I wouldn't imagine that they stripped the system out of the CK. Just, instead they built something new/different. All of their CKs seem to build on one another but usually have the old components left behind for the most part.

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Dosenmais
Dosenmais

You couldn't cut it for New Vegas which has way more resources for that and now you annouce it for a even more complicated game. I call ********.

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