Comments - someonemustgethurt

I helped code for a separate release unrelated to the original crew's. It was mostly front-end coding and file extensions for the sake of gameplay balancing but in the end, we did make a lot of improvements that gave us the competitive edge. Most credits remain in the hands of the other modders though.

ah, well imo, mines is excessive. I replied to just about everyone who tried to to prove me wrong, and here I am... doing it once again! :D
I admit my shortcomings at least, I hope that compensates :p

Truthfully, I initially posted so that other people would do the same about being indifferent in order to settle the comments section once and for all (which did work to some extent, the only comments that came after were replies to mines). I only started posting more comments after that because other people started to flame me. The only problem I had throughout was that I give too much of a damn to what other people replied. I'm too full of pride, I must admit :p

It's not exactly spam if I only posted 2 things. I haven't actually been keeping track of the mod and only checked yesterday to see this whole release date issue come up again for the 4th time. Neither do I Really want the mod, (of course I'd play it if it ever came out) - there were times in the past where I wanted to donate and even offered to map several eastern settings but was offset by aforementioned reasons.

Yes, they are thoughts about the release date; just advising how to not upset the community; really you seem to act like these things happen for no reason.

The only thing I didn't know was that the mod is going to release tomorrow (?). If it is, great I'm all for it, if it isn't then there's nothing wrong about my statements. Also in that case is that there is no valid counter argument to what I said besides "spamming", which isn't much of a point about the mod process itself.

And it's dreadfully apparent that some loyalist or troll is thumbing down every remark about the release date xD
Just saying, that doesn't solve anything. You should probably let off being stubborn and actually imagine for once that developers don't always make the right decisions, speaking from the perspective of one myself. :p

As I said maybe 4 times already (every delayed date over the years), I'd be fine if he said the mod would be released in 3 more years, as long as he sticks to his words. The only thing that the community really wants is no more of these "release dates" that aren't followed through - just keep it TBD if it's not coming out for a while. In other words, I respect that Sturm needs time to perfect the mod, but at least do it BEFORE announcing release dates. If you rationalize the situation, there's only 2 possible reasons he does this - he randomly posts these dates and clearly doesn't care about them as much as the community or he's mocking me xD

@DerGruneTeufel Of course people would be upset if a release isn't followed through, you can't expect everyone to be calm especially if it happened multiple times already and probably will happen again judging from previous experiences. It may be immature but it's time to consider is it mature on part of the modder to do such things? Another thing I mentioned 4 times before is that a developer, no matter how brilliant, must respect and be trustworthy with the community to achieve true greatness in their mods, IMO. As a modder, I try to take in feedback from everyone, not just my own thoughts.

Anyway, I'm just saying this on behalf the majority community, though it's a regurgitation of my previous comments years past.

SMGH

Or just stop with the release dates if it isn't actually happening.

oops I meant march 2010*

If you've been tracking this mod for a while, you'd notice that Sturm often announces full release dates and not follow through with them for whatever reasons that come up (4 times already to be exact - of of them being labeled as full release and the earliest maybe sometime in March 2012). I used to complain about it whenever that happened because, like others, I refreshed the page many times from excitement. Nowadays, this occurrence is normal to me and I generally ignore the dates that come - others should do the same.

Nice mod there Hemi. Played a bit on the WPC server and started up one of my own. The one thing I'm having trouble with is the level requirement scaling. The default setting of 1.0000 lets you level up 6 times in one round, which isn't what I saw in WPC. I tried setting it to around 10 times that amount, i.e. 10.00000 but you strangely can't gain exp past 1250 dmg, which is the original requirement for level 2. I then changed bUseLowestRequirements=True to False and it somehow brought the cap from 1250 to 5000 for whatever reason, changing the scale doesn't affect that.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
SMGH

I'm relatively certain that if Sturm really did have a trailer, he'd have uploaded it one way or another, especially a person of his caliber. At the very least, he would've explained why it never came. The closed beta also should've been released a week ago, but apparently DiplexHeated hasn't even received it yet and we can't even prove that other testers even exist from what we know. Bluntly speaking, he has completely failed to release anything for the 10th consecutive time (take this very literally, i.e. 2 betas, 3 videos, 3 official release dates, 2 other). The only things he really showcased were unannounced, like screenshots and the interface. It seems almost deliberate like he's trying to kill his mod or something.
NOTE: these are all just theories, so don't bash on me. But as crazy as it sounds, it's reasonable enough, don't you all think?

I wonder if DiplexHeated and the others even got their beta.. we need a confirmation. Just a day ago, Diplex said he didn't receive it yet. Ah well, I'm not holding my breath and I'm done criticizing/repeating myself every time this happens. I can't take Sturm for his word anymore so only time will tell from here. And just when I thought things were actually getting released around here ):

I don't see the purpose of the countdown if it's technically only meant for the supposed closed beta testers. We probably won't see any content for a week GIVEN that the beta testers do receive the beta at all this time. We don't even know who they are aside from Diplex, and he hasn't said much about it, or at all that I know of. If nothing happens for the 10th consecutive time (literally), then we are definitely being trolled.

The only reason I bring it up is because I keep reading comments that people make misinterpretting what I say. I tend to debate a lot anyways that's why I'm pursuing a career in law, lol.

"...move on with our lives." Don't you think that's a bit ironic since many of us are constantly monitoring this page for new content that should've been committed to? :P

Furthermore, he took off the mod release date but frequently implies that it is almost done (for the past 3 years) so it basically looks like it's in a permanent state of 95% completed. He could simply have said"I want to add new content, it'll probably take more than 3 years" and sure I'll go grab a pizza, or, hell, 1095 pizzas because I wouldn't have had to check the page everyday to see if it's done the past 1095 days since he said it was nearing full release...

@Bull-dogge
Cookie Dough's comment reflects 100% of what I am trying to say. We're just expressing our feelings about waiting for grandiose releases that were boldly advertised but never showcased, not necessarily trying to deliberately disrespect Sturm. Of course we all know he works hard on the mod, that's not the point. The false promises he made and the indifferent manner that he had in his returns after the non-releases surely come off as disrespectful towards the community. I frankly don't care as much for "beta" or gameplay videos as much as I want solid dates and, ultimately, the truth. I've kept quiet the first few times he's done that but, in my opinion, being the developer of a mod, no matter how magnificent, doesn't excuse you from needing to treat the public justly. Similar to the physics law of equal and opposite force, the community responds bitterly to such things. Generally, we're not impatient, just getting tired of such frequent postponement that occur without adequate feedback or explanation.

I take Sturm's word on this gameplay video though because although I may be so critical of certain things (in attempt to prevent them from happening again), I am always ready to forgive and embrace. We still have the rest of today and, if not, a few more days for Sturm to fulfill his commitment.

What people are misinterpreting about my comments is that they think that me and others want to hasten the progress of the mod. This is not the case, as I have said before, if he said he'd release it in a few years, I'd be fine as long as he doesn't make false promises again and again for no apparent reason. I have said long ago "..but he is entitled to have as much time as he wants since he is doing all of this for free". Now what I'm going to say will be harsh yet honest and to the point, I've been sugarcoating my comments for too long.

The combination of Sturm announcing a release, not carrying it out and then returning completely indifferent is worthy of bitter feelings. My previous comment seems all too true minus that he came back sooner than I predicted. He doesn't address the issue as if though it never happened. Neither does he confront the distraught community or acknowledge my words (besides a probable -1 vote lol), which I frankly find arrogant and offensive. He plays it off with random new screenshots, which are inevitably praised by his most loyal followers who are pleased like kids getting candy after a traumatic appointment at the dentist.. life goes on for them. I'll speak out for the 90% who are slowly losing patience with BS though.

All we want is for you to stop being misleading with dates and progress (i.e. 100% models are finished yet you still plan out more?), it happens so often, it's comical. I'm sure many of us who check often are sick of this except the die-hard fans who still see the vision over the mountain of rabble.

Sorry for the wordy outburst but I want this nonsense to end. Call me a "no-life", "tough-guy-behind-a-screen"; use those cliche lines. I'm off to Law school soon so I just want to know once and for all if I will play this mod soon or in years. I don't want to have to check the page often to see progress and be subsequently pulled back in with the damned announcements/countdowns that imply a "close" release date.

I am beginning to doubt that notion that he is caught in urgent business because on every other release date the same thing happens.
1) Some release date put up by Sturm
2) a few days or moments prior to the release, Sturm either goes silent or posts irrelevant information.
3) Silence duration is approximately 1 week to 2 weeks after "release" and everyone wonders where he went. His loyal followers of course assert that he is either - working hard, busy with family matters, or dead (jokingly).
4) he comes back and acts like nothing happens to release some screenshots or reveal some new gameplay additions like nothing happens and repeats this entire process.

I'm no hardcore statistician but this happened too often; that's what I remember from the top of my head. The work is splendid and vision is splendid in itself but you are stretching your mens' patience and fanaticism out too far at this point.

As I said before, please put up solid dates for releases and carry them out promptly if you do. Now perhaps there really is a closed beta going on right now, but there's no way to be sure since there is no list of beta-testers and everyone who is commenting right now sure do not have it.

Putting up a date and garnering high attention merely to disappoint everyone by the "release" really annoys followers of the mod. I mean the mod is phenomenal, but all of the planned release dates are never followed through (i.e. Sturm announced he would completely release it ~ 4 times). Hell, if you said you'd release it in 3 years from now, I'll respect that decision but don't make loyal fans refresh the page every 24 hours to see nothing that you promised besides a few screenshots and new vintage WW2 videos.

PS Like my last post one year ago, I would be all it if he actually did release the closed beta. I sincerely wish he'd prove my comment wrong for once.

It's just the rice fields, the water is reflecting the sky which has clouds.
@ developers, the rice fields look good (and the heli too, of course) but you might want to give the water a yellowish or brownish tint since most rice fields in VN actually aren't so clear and reflective. :)

I apologize in advance for being brutally honest but judging from the pattern of unreleased content over the development period, the mod is unlikely to be released within the coming Christmas day deadline. The exact same result occurred last Christmas and a couple dates afterwards.

Before I say anything else, I have to mention that it's one thing to respect a man for being highly skilled in modifying games and another to critique him for flawed feedback to the community. That being said, I find this latter aspect in him to be unprofessional and pointless.
The truth is we've been waiting patiently for over a year and we need solid dates - meaning times when things actually get released, not a "maybe" (that is for some reason disguised as a promise). Generally, Sturm, we deserve a real progression bar not one that keeps expanding when it's presumably done.

Regardless, Sturm is a hardworking individual and is doing this for us for free so he is almost entitled to have as much time and patience as he can get. But, at some points, even masters need fine tuning in some areas.

NOTE: If the mod DOES come out, I'm all for it and this comment would be void.

Where did you find the .dds files for the MoW:V skins? I've unpacked my e3 file but it doesn't seem to have any, yet the vanilla MoW skins included in the same place do dds files.

-SomeoneMustGetHurt

One look at this and I already regret buying Men of War Vietnam.
The models and maps here look A LOT better than the retail so far..
Generally speaking, I could buy it over the real game I'd do it; your mod rocks :)

like to contribute one*

These are very nice models, Sturm. Keep up the good work!
Also, I was wondering when are you going to detail the specifications for the Eastern Front maps you would like to make because I would like to get contribute one while I have free time :)

It's completely rational. Trust me.

The tsunami got him. Sorry, guys. D:

If any of you guys need to pass some time, here are some of Heer's old skins I just came across today.
:)
Digitalmindsoft.eu

Please only post comments related to the mod. You should seek help on a forum.

I have the Steam version of Men of War.. and it's fully updated with no way of reversal. What's my standing with the mod? xD

When you say 'German voice', you mean they will actually speak German right? Not just the accent? If that's what you meant, then that's fantastic news! If not, it'd still be great though :)