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I'm really enjoying the new Opeth track. A lot. More than you think.
Most of the knowledge came from history class in school, since we take a little glimpse at every original town's culture of Chile. Then some of it refined by Internet research but these sites are almost all in Spanish.
I actually know some stuff about the Sleknam here. So just to start they have nothing to do with aliens, sorry if I ruined it for you xD. They lived in Tierra del Fuego (land of fire), an island that made part of Chile and Argentina, located to the south. Those body paintings and mask made out of trees' barks were used to imitate spirits in the ceremony of Hain which was a initiatory ceremony for when young men became adults. The story says that way back in time, the women governed men. It was said that women had magic powers and were allied to Xalpen (a monstrous whale that ordered men to feed her meat otherwise she would eat them). Women were spokesmen of Xalpen and the spirits that rose from the ground or came from the skies in the ritual of Hain where young girls were introduced to the secrets of magic.
But all this was nothing but a lie and Kre (the strongest among the women) gave the orders to put body-paint and masks to imitate spirits and designated each one a role. Meanwhile the men obeyed and the women feasted and laughed at their stupidity. But one day the lie was discovered by Sol (Sun), he couldn't believe it, so he went back to where the men were and he uncovered the truth. The men decided to take revenge ,and armed they attacked the women's camp in the middle of the Hain ceremony. They killed every woman except for Kre (Sol's wife). Sol took a flaming log and started beating Luna (Moon), at that moment the skies quivered with such violence that he stopped. With her face defaced by burns and blows Luna fled to the skies persecuted by Sol. Sol would chase her for eternity never being able to reach Luna (yet another cool myth about the sun and the moon). The only survivors were the girls who were not initiated yet. The men walked away and they mourned for their mothers, but they decided to adopt Hain as their ceremony, and from then on they would dominate and trick women just as they were fooled and dominated before (and so it became a male ceremony to initiate young boys into the ways and secrets of the adults, I don't know how the ritual was handled but I know it had a lot of hard tests).
This was used for the Postal game?
Pretty good music for playing IMO
It's a good sign when time flies listening to a song, I was like:
-Well that was short, wish it was longer.
(Looks at timer and it is actually almost 5 min long)
-What the ****?
Interesting anatomy fact:
The first vertebra of the spinal column is also called Atlas, as kind of a tribute to the Titan.
Yes they have some cool sotries. The theme of the moon and sun being married is quite frequent apparently in different beliefs. Sorry I tried to issue your comment good karma but ended up missclicking cause I'm on my phone and I downvoted your comment. For now this is all I want to share maybe next time something involving Norse mythology or Symbols as I find those quite interesting.
Muchas gracias a ti por tu tiempo Anyna
As you may know by now I believe in the Norse mythology, because what it stands for. Nature is important and we must preserve it cause we breathe life through it, honor, victory or death. I'm not a warrior but I find sense in "fighting" for what you believe in and not giving up. I think I've become a better person by following this way and I've found happiness and motivation. It makes me feel alive.
Then you don't mind me posting some pictures about some cool stuff? I kind of wanted to share some that I thought were interesting.
Yes I agree. Instead we're focusing more in a way to defend, explain and mantain our faith. I think that is really important for any belief.
Glad to see you show interest in all of these cultures. And don't worry my spirit is not broken and I plan to fight for what I believe and what I want to do in life. As always a pleasure to talk with you and the people in the group.
Take care :D
Well there were many different beliefs each specific to every original town. But I think all of them or most of them are polytheistic mythologies all based around time cycles, and divide the world in realms. The most known one is the "Mapuche" mythology which is based around the cult to spirits and ancestors. The Cosmology is divided vertically in three realms, one above for good spirits, one in the middle for humans, and one in the bottom for evil spirits. There is also a deep appreciation for nature since there are no temples (constructions) for cult, and a river in the middle of a forest is a perfect "temple" in that case. The objective of the humans in the world is to take care and preserve nature while they wait for spirits to come to our world or realm. But there is little known about these cultures since the way of transmission was through the spoken word, and they were mainly fighting people (they're said to be the only ones who could resist the Spanish "Conquista" and remained undefeated). Also the christianization deformed a lot of these beliefs.
In another hand I find a deep interest in the Norse gods and mythology and I appreciate nature. I may not be nord but it is what i believe in (I have Italian and German offspring, so maybe I'm Kinda European at the very least). If you played Skyrim to the very end you may have fought against "The Ebony Warrior" (if not this might be a spoiler alert, but I suggest you to read it because it pictures my condition perfectly), he wanted to battle you so he could die and go to Sovngarde (Skyrim equivalent to Asgard/Valhalla) but he was a Red Guard ( another race), but it was what he believed in. I don't remember if he got the chance to go there. The thing is that I rejected Catholic religion cause I didn't find peace with it, and with Norse mythology I found something that was meaningful for me and that I could appreciate, of course I'm not a Viking or whatever, but I find peace with it and I'm not joking around with it. As you say maybe I'll never go to Asgard or Valhalla but just as The Ebony Warrior I decide to stay true to what matters to me. You made me all sad but it's okay I guess there will be some place for me when I die.
PD: I speak French :D
Hi guys, doing a quick update of what we've been talking about in my theology class for the past 2 weeks. First we looked at the concept of religion trying to do an extensive definition that could include all religions, of course this is pretty hard since there are a lot of different religions and they're really different. For example a buddhist when he meditates he does not seek to make contact with God but with an essential reality, therefore a definition that includes seeking contact with a god or many gods does not apply here. (We talked about many other things here but I'm just putting this to make it short).
Then we proceeded to talk about Catholic religion and it's characteristics like, monotheist religion (one God, Trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit), historicity, revelation (God seeks the human, not the other way around), Christ-centrist (Christ being the "pinnacle" of revelation, and God made man to make himself known among us), and how the conception of the Catholic Church differentiates it from other christian confessions, and also some other things that you might be familiar with.
Then we talked about Faith, this one is complex. Again we tried to make an extensive definition that could include all religions or most of them if possible;(I'll try my best to summarize without failing this one cause it's really complex) we described Faith as "the subjective acceptation made by the human in the inner self of the divine reality or sacred and absolute being as existent, real and true, that way becoming center of his personal life". Then of course we proceeded to discuss Catholic Faith and how it is the answer to revelation, how Faith is possible cause it was given to us by God (grace), but also Faith is free cause humans can decide whether they accept that Faith or not. Example: Faith is possible cause it is given to us by God, but we decide if we accept it or not. Just like the parents of a baby can hold him up so he can walk (he couldn't be able to stand up without his parents help), but the baby will decide if he wants to walk or not. In a more modern point of view we also talked about Faith being reasonable because it's based in credibility, just as we trust a friend who tells us a story even if we weren't there not because it is scientifically proven, but because he is trust worthy, and he has credibility as a witness. Jesus-Christ would be that witness of maximum credibility.(Again I skiped a lot of stuff but that's what I could remember now).
PD: An interesting question came by in the class when someone asked about Satan. The teacher pictured him correctly as a fallen angel (therefore a superior entity) who refused the communion of love with God, and tries to lead Jesus "astray" of the path to God and also humans through temptation. Not someone who engulfs everything in fire and destroys everything with rage (these where just ideas that were associated to him for believers to stay true to their Faith).
You're free to discuss, thanks for reading!
Hahaha same here I thought it was Jörmungandr at first. Just remembered Níðhöggr because he is mentioned in Amon Amarth's Jomsviking song On a Sea Of Blood.
The snake at the bottom is supposed to be Níðhöggr right? I'm kind of confused beacuse I thought that he was at Nilfheim, but since it is gnawing Yggdrasill's root I'm sure that's him. And also it is oftenly described as a dragon but also as a snake sometimes.
I found myself humming to that hahaha good song.
Here is one of my favorite moments in music, one of the best live shows I've been to, the crowd sync and energy was insane, I get chills when I listen to it.
Cool songs from very different bands I've been listening to lately.
I started playing when I was 12, I'm now 18 so that makes 6 years. Even though I never really was one for music theory, so I almost don't have songwriting abilities. I enjoy playing other songs and improvising from time to time, for all the years I've been playing I would say I'm pretty mediocre and I could have learned much more. But since I had to enter college I had to focus on studies, and my guitar teacher started a family and he couldn't make a living for them with just guitar lessons, so he had to find another job, therefore I haven't had guitar lessons for 2 years now. He was the coolest guitar teacher I could have ever imagined, he showed me Iron Maiden, Pantera, and many other cool bands, and most importantly he gave me motivation to play. So do you play any instrument?
Good point of view. I expect going to Valhalla, maybe we'll cross paths there, who knows.
Sounds so damn good!
I know all that, I was just picturing the idea or expectation that non believers have of God. I may have chosen the wrong words to express myself, sorry for that English isn't my main language.
This is the kind of song that gives me shivers, in the good way of course.
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome.
Even though atheist or non believers have goals, and motivations, I think they have a different approach or idea of progress than religious people. And people tend to reject religion just because of the idea of God or gods not existing and they throw away all of the other things that religion comes with such as a spiritual life and plenitude. If we take a look at History I think this has to do with the fact that before no one questioned christian religion the way it was presented. If something happened it was because God wanted it that way and no one questioned it, but nowadays with the advance in science that explains all different phenomenons that before were attributed to God people tend to reject religion. People have this image or expectation of a "Big Maker" that pulls the strings from above and makes the World go around, but it's not like that. For example we know when it rains it's because water evaporated from the seas then condensed again in a cloud and then it fell from the sky, Ok so God doesn't create water out of nowhere and then he throws it down, but that doesn't mean that the idea of God couldn't be imprinted in that process. People have a materialistic expectation of God and maybe they don't realize that he can be just a feeling or something that is all around us. So I think an update in the Christian speech or the idea of God could help, of course there are a lot more reasons why people reject it but this is my opinion for the moment.
I just thought of that song when I saw the picture and also Link's horse.
Hi guys just joined the group. I'll get right to my point and first post. Even though I'm not catholic or christian I study at a catholic college and we have to take at least one theology class as a requirement to graduate. Today I had my first theology class and the theme for the semester's class is "Religion and Faith before the challenge of the Modern Culture". The objective of the class is to find a solution or a way to re-validate christian religion today, in a time where science and reason dominate, and christian religion is highly rejected, attacked or questioned. I thought it was a very interesting subject with a difficult answer, so if anyone minds sharing what their solution (way to make Christian religion be appreciated or to be deep rooted in today's tradition like it was a long time ago) might be please do.
PD: If anyone is really interested by this subject and wants to keep talking about it I can update through the semester of what we're talking about in class.
If it's similar to The Gallery we've got one hell of an album coming, another Gothenburg sound classic.
Happy to hear that. I hope everything is going cool for you too. I'm fine but college starts in a week u.u , so I'm trying to have fun for the remaining days. Cool bands to start listening, let your boyfriend guide you hahaha.
See you later.
Never really listened to Gorgoroth. After hearing this I'm definitely going to.
Hahaha ******* Abbath always doing some weird ****. He has this really ridiculous little hip dance in the All Shall Fall videoclip.