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!!Nova!!
!!Nova!! - - 460 comments

true that

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greenishcrab
greenishcrab - - 603 comments

BURN MATT WARD!

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The_Mastodon
The_Mastodon - - 4,279 comments

Restore Honour to the Ultra Marines Chapter!

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Orac|
Orac| - - 896 comments

"Matt Ward's fluff was so bad, in fact" ... ? I was just beginning to get into this.

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Supahchikin Author
Supahchikin - - 574 comments

"Matt Ward's fluff was so bad, in fact, that it caused players to abandon the Ultras in favor of other Marine chapters, such as the Imperial Fists, Salamanders, and Raven Guard (the latter of which Matt Ward seems to have a personal vendetta against). Other players were so alienated that they either turned to Chaos or stopped playing Marines entirely.

Thus is the hatred brought about by the hubris of one man."

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DerEisenmann Creator
DerEisenmann - - 1,666 comments

the story of WH 40k, one man ***** up all the 'loyalists' :P

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SlayerX3
SlayerX3 - - 2,448 comments

The fluff when it was a parodied 80's UK with british dark humor was something more interesting.

Now this is getting to the point of being downright silly.

I'm almost no longer taking WH40K so seriously.

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purplepinkflame
purplepinkflame - - 617 comments

The way I do it is just keep the base fluff, and throw out the useless crap in my mind (Like Grey Knights slaughtering Sisters of Battle...)

My victories and defeats are all based around conflicts and campaigns my friends and I had engaged each other in, using our own named characters.

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Calgar Creator
Calgar - - 2,304 comments

Ward never touched Ultra fluff, he likes the Ultras thats all.

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Supahchikin Author
Supahchikin - - 574 comments

"Responsible for widely-ridiculed and openly-despised Fifth Edition version of Codex: Space Marines, which is basically a Codex full of Ultramarines fanfiction, portraying the Ultramarines as second to the Emprah in damned-near all regards, and that all Space Marines view Roboute Guilliman as their spiritual liege. Even in the face of their own Primarchs. Any who don't are clearly deviants on their way out, no matter how they outnumber the Ultramarines. In some cases, certain special characters are "rumored" to rival (if not exceed) the ************* Emperor's power. Did we mention that Matt Ward plays Ultramarines? "

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KaiCalimatinus
KaiCalimatinus - - 159 comments

I heard once, in one great forum, whose name I forget, someone spoke, then followed with, 'but you guys will just ignore me since I don't believe Marneus can Crap lightning and fart thunder'

And this was when he was just a dour faced even headed, skilled fighter with nice weapons.

Now he has a plasma storm bolter.

MAAAATT WAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRD!!!!!!!!!!!

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Before the time of stupid - before Matt Ward.
There was an actual fanbase for this chapter once, one that once held deep reverence for the Ultramarines - not because of idiotic Matt Ward fluff, but because they were honest-to-goodness "Joe Everyman" heroes on the battlefield. Many players who stuck with Marines got their start with the Ultramarines, and there was ample fluff of the chapter taking its lumps and fighting on, like men - Maccrage, Black Reach, and more. Hell, even Winter Assault harkened back to these simpler times, back when the Ultramarines were worthy of respect and whilst /tg/ simply disliked them before, it was mostly because of the population of newblets that arrived, and not because the fluff was retarded and portrayed them as SECOND TO TEH EMPRAH. Armies like Matt Hudson's were examples of what an actually good Ultramarines group with deep fluff centered around every victory and loss could be like. Players reminisced over the Ultras because they were, for many, their starting army for 40K.
There was a time where the Ultramarines were frankly more human, showing both the strengths and weaknesses of humanity all the stronger. They lost members to Chaos, and groups of their forces undertook penitence crusades. There was battles they lost, such as against the Necrons. They held Maccrage, but with a staggering toll in lives. They defeated the Alpha Legion, but fell prey to the trap set by said legion and paid the price for Guilliman's hubris, something that Guilliman himself felt immense guilt for. They were fallible before Matt Ward got involved, and they were more characterful for it, as it made their victories that much more inspiring.

The Ultramarines players that actually existed before Matt Ward were rarely given much more than mild indifference from /tg/ in the past. There is thus no one who hates their fluff in the new edition more than those who were long-term fans and players of the Ultramarines. Matt Ward's fluff was so bad, in fact,