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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 23 2012, 9:06pm buried:

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Wow he got older since the last time I saw him! (or maybe I just don't remember him too well) anyways, most of his points (if not all) I can disprove. I'll start with the dating methods he claimed work. They don't because for them to work the scientist MUST know all the variables, (ie starting point, and if the rate was constant) without those it won't work. Next point I like it how he mentions distant stars yet doesn't even hint the fact that comets would have disintegrated over more then 10000 years. Still here are some possible explainations for why stars are billions of years away: 1. God created the light on its way to earth. (unlikely but possible) 2. God created everything closely together and then streched it out. (possible but makes sense with the final point better) 3. When everything was closer together the gravity slowed time so much that to an earthly observer it would appear like a short amount of time. (this combined with the 2 point makes sense) next I do believe in micro-evolution since I see it on a daily basis. However I have never seen an animal changing to an entirely new kind, niethere has such an event been ever documented. Last point, just because I or anyone else believes in creation doesn't make them dumb or stupid. For example I'm constructing a hidden gun, based of AC 2, with a bunch of my own modifications. (I'll post a video showing it on the AC group once I finish) there I think I covered everything:D

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InsanityPays
InsanityPays Aug 23 2012, 9:14pm replied:

You obviously don't understand evolution. It's a lot easier to explain things when you stop trying to fit god into the equation somewhere.

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Sarge_Rho Creator
Sarge_Rho Aug 23 2012, 10:54pm replied:

"the fact that comets would have disintegrated over more then 10000 years."

What fact? Comets would not have disintegrated in 10000 years. In fact, they will likely still be around when the sun goes red giant in 5 billion years from now.

"However I have never seen an animal changing to an entirely new kind, niethere has such an event been ever documented."

Define kind. If by that you mean family, like apes, felines or canines, then you don't understand evolution very well.

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Cervi_Messias Creator
Cervi_Messias Aug 24 2012, 12:11am replied:

gotta love creationists, think they know better than people who know what there talking about.
lets not respond to him from now on.

if you guys agree we can just ignore him
because he is stuipid and clearly unreachable

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 24 2012, 3:03am replied:

Fine I get your point however to avoid future debates lets both just promote the science we all agree on:)

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 24 2012, 4:03am replied:

I just watched this and I think the message in it is great. Youtube.com (I hope the link works) anyways we should stop debating things that are unprovable and unseen. All we see are the effects and we both agree on the effects but we both try to fit the effects to our beliefs. It would be better if we focused on things that can be proven and are much more interesting (i.e. Sharing interesting expiriments:D) even if a bunch of science isn't fully understood. (I mean I saw some pretty weird things like telekinetics on YouTube, I have yet to prove it by conducting my own tests) also we could focus on how to make the world better then just debating about the past which neither of us can prove.

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Sarge_Rho Creator
Sarge_Rho Aug 24 2012, 8:44am replied:

Evolution is proven and seen.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 24 2012, 12:34pm replied:

I'm trying to end these useless debates where neither of us can prove it. Evolution is just a view of the evidence which COULD also be used to support creation. And since niethere of us were there at the beginning then we can either trust a theory which totally tries to get rid of God, or we can trust a historical documant, which was written by people that saw a great deal of those things. I rather try my luck with God then against him:) lastly, I'm sure Adam wrote down what he saw and passed it on. Adam saw God creating the garden of Eden, he didn't see God making the earth since he wasn't alive then, but he did see God making the garden. Which then means that God made the other stuff too. Anyways I'm never becoming an atheist, and it looks like most of you will never become Christians, so if you want we can stop debating this.

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Admiral-165 Creator
Admiral-165 Aug 24 2012, 4:46pm replied:

'debate'... Even Ecclesia knew when to quit (Myself as well, props to us both for just going our own ways). You're more like a troll TBH. You never quit, nothing you say has any fact or value, and you openly deny obvious truths.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 25 2012, 1:42am replied:

Please I don't look kindly on insults.

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Sarge_Rho Creator
Sarge_Rho Aug 24 2012, 9:12pm replied:

Then stop trying to portray creation as science. It isn't. The evidence contradicts it.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 25 2012, 1:44am replied:

I would disagree.

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ComradeWinston Author
ComradeWinston Aug 24 2012, 11:59am replied:

Oh that is just brilliant, "slaves4christ" describes that channel so well. The censorship also speaks to the innate authoritarian nature of most seriously deluded theologians.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Aug 24 2012, 3:15pm replied:

I recommend we just have an entirely scientific debate on whether evolution is viable or not, just the facts. The bible is not considered a historical document, clearly Christian-biased OR atheist-biased websites cannot be used as sources, and God cannot get involved (and if a group can't pass these regulations, it ISN'T SCIENCE). Then we can actually have a discussion on science, which is what evolution (and this group) pretains to.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 25 2012, 1:49am replied:

Not everything on a creation OR Athiest website is biased. However like I said previously we should focus on all the other aspects of science AND value each others opinions. I mean we could be sharing actual science that can be proven not historical science.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Aug 25 2012, 10:15am replied:

That's true, not everything is, but a hell of a lot is. And I think that limits our subjects, we're not going to just ignore sections of legitimate science because religious people are unwilling to accept them. (Evolution IS actual science that can be proven)

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 25 2012, 5:04pm replied:

Then why hasnt it been proven yet? Where's the missing link? (or maybe the entire chain is missing?) point is evolution is not science. I could use the same observations and prove creation. But that would be my interpetation of the evidence, just like evolution is the interpetation of the evidence. Fact is that we are here. Beliefs are that we appeared from a rock for no reason what so ever. Or that God made us from dirt with the purpose of us praising him. Neither has been proven. So both are beliefs. We don't have to debate beliefs in a science group. If evolution is true then there has to be some expiriment that I can do which will prove to me that it really happens:) now before you bring up the one and only version of evolution that does commonly happen(micro-evolution) know that I am convinced that happens because I have seen that a lot of different dog breeds can breed, and still produce a dog. I never saw an animal become an entirely new species though.

Anyways either we can both post belief based items, or we cannot post a single belief related item. I really don't like having my interpetation called unscientific, while your interpetation somehow is scienetific, both are just interpretations of the facts.

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Sarge_Rho Creator
Sarge_Rho Aug 26 2012, 12:51am replied:

It HAS Been proven and WHAT Missing link?

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Cervi_Messias Creator
Cervi_Messias Aug 26 2012, 9:20pm replied:

you are a ******* arent you? or are you just trolling?

evolution takes thousands or even millions of years. you clearly dont understand what you are talking about at all.
all evolution in micro evolution justa over a long period of freakin time.
god has nothing to do with science, none.

i am beggin to thing we need to report you because you are clearly trolling this group.

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ElfFriend
ElfFriend Aug 27 2012, 2:24am replied:

Fine I'll shut up, I might still coment here and there but I'll try encouraging reasonable people to debate me by pm.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Aug 27 2012, 2:10pm replied:

Thank you! Please move your debates to PM's both here and on the atheists page.

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Cervi_Messias Creator
Cervi_Messias Aug 27 2012, 8:17pm replied:

HURRAY!!!
science page for science forever!!!

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