Organized religion should not have anything to do with politics, as combination of the two usually leads to the contamination of both. While there's nothing wrong with having views about God or a higher power, using religion as a political tool is just wrong.
Personally, I've always been disgusted with organized religion.
Same. I don't mind personal faith as long as it doesn't override common sense, but organized religions usually end up as evil organizations that cause far more harm than good.
Agreed, IDC about what people believe in but when organized religion starts interfering in other people's lives who don't believe in it or start controlling the government it needs to be put down.
The same thing can be said about atheism. Atheists go around trying to tell others what is and what isn't acceptable in public and they keep trying to rewrite our history books to fit their own agendas. They also go around acting like we can't talk about our beliefs and we should "keep them to ourselves" while its okay for them to openly push their beliefs on non-atheists. To make suggestions is one thing, to try to force us into silence is another.
"Our?" You have your own dimension in this universe now?
What you are seeing is the start of a reaction to centuries—no, a few millenia of religious institution imposing nonsensical morals and ideas upon society. It is only to be expected, especially since the basic reasoning skills that can easily dismantle dogma down to its basic elements are in all normally developed humans.
Certainty, control, self-importance, and most fundamentally, ********.
Point missed entirely. I'll restate it so that even you can understand it. Atheism = hypocrisy. You are intolerant of everything you don't agree with and expect everyone to be tolerant of your beliefs regardless. You accuse us of the very things you are guilty of. You fling around opinions and treat them as "fact" when none of us, especially you (atheists), know next to nothing 100%.
and you dont, no one has rewritten your history books. in most cases it has been corrections because they were factually wrong.
and you do know everything 100% yuri?
do you know what that means guys... yuri is god because yuri knows everything and can tell us we are wrong for sure.
looks like Jaing_Skirata covered most of the points....
but, i want to add that i try doing good not because i fear hell, but because Jesus wants me to be good, he died for me. it's hard to explain, so basically (summed up) its because i Respect God that i try being good.
If Jesus taught people to kind and respectful to each other, then can "Christians" who contradict those principles still say they are Christians?
What's even more interesting:
If religion is everything that this picture addresses, then are the teachings of Jesus actually a religion?
You might like some of the things Robert H. Bell had to say about this. The "fundies" hate him, which is a pretty strong indication that he's on the right track.
A Christian (About this sound pronunciation (help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christ, a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term Messiah.[1] - Wiki
You can try to say they're not Christians because of the way they act, but that doesn't change the fact that they believe in the Bible. Being a Christian isn't defined by how you act but by what you belief (hence religion status). Go ahead and redefine the word to suit your purposes or hell, just admit the fundamentalists are just bad Christians and I'll agree with you. Calling them 'fake' though is not an answer in this situation.
"Being a Christian isn't defined by how you act but by what you belief (hence religion status)."
That's what many people would like to believe, but that's not necessarily true.
Let me give an example:
Let's say you meet me and I tell you that I'm a baseball fan. But while talking to you, I unwittingly reveal that I've never been to a baseball game in my life. Then, you find out that I always complain about having to watch baseball matches, and I don't even understand the way the game works. I read magazines about football, but I don't do much more than that. Under the circumstances, would it still be correct to say that I'm a baseball fan?
Now, how is Christianity any different?
"A Christian (About this sound pronunciation(help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament."
Before you say someone is Christian, you should ask yourself a few questions:
1) What was the main principle that Jesus taught about?
2) What is the main principle that the New Testament is based on?
3) Is the person in question doing a good job at following that principle?
So, you can say that someone is bad Christian, or you can say that they're fakes, but either way they aren't doing what their beliefs say they should do!
Organized religion should not have anything to do with politics, as combination of the two usually leads to the contamination of both. While there's nothing wrong with having views about God or a higher power, using religion as a political tool is just wrong.
Personally, I've always been disgusted with organized religion.
Same. I don't mind personal faith as long as it doesn't override common sense, but organized religions usually end up as evil organizations that cause far more harm than good.
Agreed, IDC about what people believe in but when organized religion starts interfering in other people's lives who don't believe in it or start controlling the government it needs to be put down.
The same thing can be said about atheism. Atheists go around trying to tell others what is and what isn't acceptable in public and they keep trying to rewrite our history books to fit their own agendas. They also go around acting like we can't talk about our beliefs and we should "keep them to ourselves" while its okay for them to openly push their beliefs on non-atheists. To make suggestions is one thing, to try to force us into silence is another.
"Our?" You have your own dimension in this universe now?
What you are seeing is the start of a reaction to centuries—no, a few millenia of religious institution imposing nonsensical morals and ideas upon society. It is only to be expected, especially since the basic reasoning skills that can easily dismantle dogma down to its basic elements are in all normally developed humans.
Certainty, control, self-importance, and most fundamentally, ********.
Point missed entirely. I'll restate it so that even you can understand it. Atheism = hypocrisy. You are intolerant of everything you don't agree with and expect everyone to be tolerant of your beliefs regardless. You accuse us of the very things you are guilty of. You fling around opinions and treat them as "fact" when none of us, especially you (atheists), know next to nothing 100%.
and you dont, no one has rewritten your history books. in most cases it has been corrections because they were factually wrong.
and you do know everything 100% yuri?
do you know what that means guys... yuri is god because yuri knows everything and can tell us we are wrong for sure.
trololololololol
What part of "...none of us..." did you miss?
looks like Jaing_Skirata covered most of the points....
but, i want to add that i try doing good not because i fear hell, but because Jesus wants me to be good, he died for me. it's hard to explain, so basically (summed up) its because i Respect God that i try being good.
Well then, I guess stopping you from mindlessly murdering and raping everyone in sight can be added to the list of good things religion has done.
LOL, I wish what you said weren't true, but for some Christians, that's exactly what they threaten to do if there was no God.
Ah, but here's the interesting question:
If Jesus taught people to kind and respectful to each other, then can "Christians" who contradict those principles still say they are Christians?
What's even more interesting:
If religion is everything that this picture addresses, then are the teachings of Jesus actually a religion?
You might like some of the things Robert H. Bell had to say about this. The "fundies" hate him, which is a pretty strong indication that he's on the right track.
A Christian (About this sound pronunciation (help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christ, a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term Messiah.[1] - Wiki
You can try to say they're not Christians because of the way they act, but that doesn't change the fact that they believe in the Bible. Being a Christian isn't defined by how you act but by what you belief (hence religion status). Go ahead and redefine the word to suit your purposes or hell, just admit the fundamentalists are just bad Christians and I'll agree with you. Calling them 'fake' though is not an answer in this situation.
"Being a Christian isn't defined by how you act but by what you belief (hence religion status)."
That's what many people would like to believe, but that's not necessarily true.
Let me give an example:
Let's say you meet me and I tell you that I'm a baseball fan. But while talking to you, I unwittingly reveal that I've never been to a baseball game in my life. Then, you find out that I always complain about having to watch baseball matches, and I don't even understand the way the game works. I read magazines about football, but I don't do much more than that. Under the circumstances, would it still be correct to say that I'm a baseball fan?
Now, how is Christianity any different?
"A Christian (About this sound pronunciation(help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament."
Before you say someone is Christian, you should ask yourself a few questions:
1) What was the main principle that Jesus taught about?
2) What is the main principle that the New Testament is based on?
3) Is the person in question doing a good job at following that principle?
So, you can say that someone is bad Christian, or you can say that they're fakes, but either way they aren't doing what their beliefs say they should do!