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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum Apr 11 2013, 11:59am says:

No its not. Looking at the world objectively is being rational. Sorry Carl Sagan but atheism does not promote rationality neither does any religion really. The human mind is far more complex than how we see it and it takes far more than a particular mindset towards some data to promote such notions.

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Cervi_Messias
Cervi_Messias Apr 11 2013, 5:36pm replied:

Actually yes it does, atheism uses the scientific priniples of metholgical naturalism and skeptisism.

Atheists like scientists look at the world in an unbiased perspective (meanig we dont blieve in magic and ignore all religious beliefs because they are not science)
science and atheism both see the world s natural- not spiritual or supernatural, of course you dont have to be an athiest to follow scientific principles- its just that we are from the start (its the only way we can look at the world)

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Readyus
Readyus Apr 11 2013, 12:58pm says:

Carl Sagan was not an atheist, he was an agnostic. In fact, he was against some forms of atheism (in his opinion, it is not rational to directly oppose to the existance of a creator instead of being skeptical).

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Cervi_Messias
Cervi_Messias Apr 11 2013, 5:07pm replied:

he was what is known as a soft atheist

there is a difference between those who say we dont believe there is a god & those who say no god exists.

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Cervi_Messias
Cervi_Messias Apr 11 2013, 5:23pm replied:

If you dont blieve in a god you are an atheist, he didnt believe in a god so he was.

if you say you cant know if there are or arent gods then you are agnostic- he was also agnostic primarily because we cannot prove there are no god like beings in the universe.

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Cyborg_Putin
Cyborg_Putin Apr 11 2013, 11:02pm replied:

Yes, he was an agnostic, but in my personal opinion, he was more like an agnostic leaning towards atheism.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Apr 11 2013, 6:08pm says:

Well, good quote, but it's debated whether Carl Sagan said this, and has been attributed to other people. Honestly I rather doubt Sagan would say something quite so religion-oriented, he's not much of one to comment on the matter.

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