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May 12 2013 Anchor

Good day to everyone!
Excuse me good sirs, it's the first time I'm posting on this forum. I'm not a developer myself, nor any important figure at all but I feel I must do something.
I believe that the game named "Fun" (placed here on moddb under this link Moddb.com) abuses general norms of morale, religion and possibly also laws of some countries (at least Russia) about posting Internet content dangerous for mental health of Internet users . Though I tried to search I haven't found any way to complain addressing directly to the administration of moddb. Where should I send my request to? What measures can I take without dealing with law enforcement organizations?
Please, if you can, redirect my letter to someone responsible for placing games on moddb. I'm not very socially active generally but right now and here I'm sure that this content is ENTIRELY WRONG AND MALICIOUS and it's a duty of everyone to do the best for erasing that game from moddb once and for all.
Yours sincerely,
Sparehawk.

Edited by: Sparehawk

May 12 2013 Anchor

The admins of moddb/indie db hold a very high regard to freedom of speech and pushing the boundaries of gaming. I think you will find you complaints wont fall on deaf ears and will be noted but don't expect them to remove anything.

You can check here for a pretty clear point on how the mod db admins feel about freedom of speech and that kind of stuff in general:
Moddb.com

I am in no way agreeing or disagreeing with you in taking it down, it doesn't offend me in the slightest but I can understand how some may be offended.

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Nightshade
Nightshade Senior Technical Artist
May 12 2013 Anchor

You sound like one of those fundamentalist, american christians who thinks that violent games (or violent movies... or metal music... or violent books) corrupts the younger generation and needs to be regulated/censored.

I checked the playthrough and the game looked boring. Some psycho texts and some gore pics stolen off google: There are worse things in The Saw -movies!! So what exactly are you offended by?
And no it's not the duty of everyone to stand up against this: you may feel it's your duty - I feel its my duty to promote liberty and freedom of speech.

Edited by: Nightshade

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May 12 2013 Anchor

I've never said that the content itself was of such an extreme degree of violence or something. I haven't watched any of the Saw movies (though I've heard of them), nor have I played this game so I can't measure its quality directly. And I'm only very happy to conclude that basing on your words the game is just a pile of ophal. What I was really shocked with was the position of the game author. I do remember some of his previous games, he sticks to such topics all the way and each time it's getting worse. I'm not sure, maybe he is a deviant himself or it's such a manner of mocking the auditory. But now he stresses that this is just violence for violence and as I remember in the Saw movies - well, anywhere - there was always a strict logical explanation of what's happening and each time the story was at least trying to disguise as psychologycal, or phylosophical, or something! And this ... author is only encouraging its auditory to feel sick and psycho. This is a position and it's a bad sign I believe. There was no disclaimer, not any softening words like this was an experiment how disgusting a game can be. I'm glad that it was all performed in such a poor quality and that it has such a low rating. But it's a precedent. And it may encourage someone by confurming that there is no restrictions. One of the reviews already asked - why was this allowed into moddb?

Niteshade wrote: I feel its my duty to promote liberty and freedom of speech.


And it doesn't matter for you just what one is saying, is it? Even a little?

Edited by: Sparehawk

Henley
Henley the sun never sets on the eternally cool
May 12 2013 Anchor

A good suggestion is to ignore the content, you do it with badly made games so why would this be any different.

figalot wrote: The admins of moddb/indie db hold a very high regard to freedom of speech and pushing the boundaries of gaming. I think you will find you complaints wont fall on deaf ears and will be noted but don't expect them to remove anything.

You can check here for a pretty clear point on how the mod db admins feel about freedom of speech and that kind of stuff in general:
Moddb.com

I am in no way agreeing or disagreeing with you in taking it down, it doesn't offend me in the slightest but I can understand how some may be offended.


Spot on. Unless it offends myself (which nothing really does) then its safe to have on the site. We have no age gate or whatever so yeah just do not download the game. You can be your own censor!

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Yuki.Kix
Yuki.Kix Concept Artist
May 12 2013 Anchor

well... it does tell you what to expect, its practically plastered all over the place.

if you decide that its too desecrating for you, well, don't play it. I thought it was simple enough for myself to come to the conclusion that it wasn't the type of game i'd want to play, and i don't see how anyone else would find that to be that much more difficult.

maybe kindly ask the dev to put some more disclaimers up, but i dont see anything further than that as necessary.

May 15 2013 Anchor

Well, then I think the question is over. At least it's good that I was received here with a polite friendly discussion so thank you all very much. Naturally, I can just spit on that game what I've in fact already done. It's only sad that such dubious (softly said) developers as that one stand amongst all those respected people of moddb. But fortunately there's still much more good guys ) So let's hold on and thank you all once more )

Edited by: Sparehawk

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