Resident Evil: The Evil Begins (HIRING) yet again :P Thread

Ok no more flame war this time ok?

Ok i have started a new resident evil mod for half-life/half-life2. I will make this as realistic as possible. We will have Adult charecters and child charecters to pick from and there will also be adult and child charecters. You play as a normal person living a normal life but one day you see millions of zombies attacking Racoon City. This will be a coop mod but isnt just running around each level shooting zombies. This will need teamwork and skill, because lets say to beat this level you escape through a sewer. But as all sewers its closed, so you have to search the whole map looking for a tool to get it open. So just shooting zombies isnt gonna get you very far now will it?

INFECTION

If you get infected by being hit or bit by a infected zombie/animal you will die no matter what. There will be atidotes and herbs but they only slow the infection down. Slowly as you play the infection will ruin your sight, reaction time, and speed intill you die.

ZOMBIES

There will not only be zombies but dogs, birds, cats ect. They will walk slow but they are still dangerous. They can killed instantly by being shot in the head, but anywhere else justs slows them down. If you do enough damage though they will die but it will be easier to shoot them in the head.

GAMEPLAY

This will be a coopertive modification, which means you play with other people online to beat the game. There will be levels which you have to beat to get to the next. They all go along so lets say you escaped through a whole in the wall and it loads the next level. Well when its finished loading it will look like you actually went through the wall. It wont be like you playing in a hotel and then when you beat it you go to the moon.

PLAYERS

There will be Adult and children charecters to play as. So you can pick a chrecter that most suits your real life. There will be male and female players, each having its own special ability. Like the men will have more streagth or the women will have more speed.

If you are interested in helping us with the mod please contact me at tomalajr@hotmail.com or visit the site at Reteb.hlgaming.com

The following positions are needed:
Coders
Modelers
Animaters
Mappers
Skinners
Sound Artists

- Edited By ^Tomala^ On Wed 15th, Sep 2004 @ 7:08:16pm

Now before you go say "DON'T FLAMEZORZ MEH!!!11shift +1" you must realize something.Like it or not, you will recieve feedback.Forums are made to have people respond, whether it be to harass,help, join a mod, etc.So before you go and start shouting about it, study the responses and don't go into defense mode.

First of all, this is sounding all too similar to RE: Outbreak.The C&D stick would probably bring down it's wraith.Seeing as this, maybe you should stray from the current RE stories,characters, and areas (i.e. Racoon City,the Mansion, etc.)I myself for one am doing a zombie mod based around the works of George Romero.However, the only similarity are the zombies and how they just suddenly :happened:.Everything else is otherwise thought of by us.Now, it's a little hard to say "unique" and "zombies" in the same sentence, since it is a cliche horror genre.But, given that you add some sort of unique gameplay, and by unique I mean COMPLETELY unthought of, then you will be in the gamer's attention span.The only thing loved about zombie mods is the effort to out-do the last one.

Secondly, if you want help you're gonna need to help us .Give us something that will grab our attention, some media or in-depth description of what your mod is about.Also, might I add, that it helps to have good literary skills, so you might want to edit your first post on here.Anyway, that is probably the soundest way to entice help.

Finally, I cannot stress how bad of an idea it is to search these forums for help.Most people don't know squat about modding and are here only to play.If you're looking for some of the hardcore modders, Polycount, Cgtalk, and 3dtotal forums are where you should be looking.Not that I'm saying don't look here, but chances of getting someone here are slim.Alot of the modders are already tangled up in several mods as is.A suggestion would be to just post in your mod profile with the handy-dandy Help Wanted buttonm and then go search the other sites.

- Edited By CyanideCotdPnuts On Wed 15th, Sep 2004 @ 9:06:12pm

I hate to say it but your idea needs more work for a solid team. but keep it up. These guys in the forums dont mean to attack you or you in a mean way. They give up front advice on how to mod how they see it.

I remember first getting into modding and I asked for help like this.

My mod needs help email me. <-------- that was all I would say. I got more heat then help. Anyways old memories!

If i change my mod anymore it wouldnt be a resident evil mod. Were gonn have different maps and a different story but still, it has to have SOME similarities.

Your idea is basically the exact same concept of RE: Outbreak.

You pick normal people.

You always have the virus.

You're in Racoon City.

You can team up w/ other civilians.

It's just too similar.

- Edited By CyanideCotdPnuts On Wed 15th, Sep 2004 @ 11:01:46pm

Well what can i possibly do?

If you have to ask us, then you're in over your head.You should really change your idea and give it more thought before asking for help :/.

The only reason saying is that Capcom will be breathing down your neck.

HAH well look at you, your making a mod based on dawn of the dead. Wont them makers be breathing down YOUR neck?

Besides, There isnt much i could do without coping someone elses idea. If i make the people cops, im copying RETSP and if i make them normal people just coop i copy outbreak but there isnt one for pc. Theres going to be different charecters, weapons, medicine o and to make it even better ill make it in a different city.

- Edited By ^Tomala^ On Thu 16th, Sep 2004 @ 8:49:56am

Well, as for your comment on my mod, I said it was loosely based on his works.Even if it started resembling what George Romero did, he can't do anything.He's dead.As I stated before the only notable resemblance is the idea of how the zombies became.Now, I don't think there's much to say about the creation of zombies unless it's a virus or magic.

Now before you start getting hostile again, me and Bluewolf have suggested you give the idea some tinkering because if you don't, your chances of getting somewhere are slim at least.This will be caused by C&D,Lack of interest,Talent, or a variety of other things.Maybe take some classes in literature or find someone who's a writer.Discuss with them on how you could better the storyline.Once that's accomplished, find that unique gameplay point.In fact, do you even have a main document?

I cannot stress enough how badly you need those two things for a mod - STORYLINE AND UNIQUE POINT OF PLAY.And that's a general statement for all of you aspiring mod makers too.Even if you do attract someone's attention, they're going to be lacking in either dedication,skill,and motivation.If you don't find someone with all of those skills, they won't last long and neither will the mod.

I'm guessing by your habitual outbursts of anger towards me that you are in your mid-teens.Now, that's not a bad thing, but if you wish to lead a team you need to act like a leader.This requires being a mature,cool-headed, adult.You think this is the only place you're going to run into people with an idea conflicting to yours?I can guarentee there will always be at least one on your team, at your job.Hell, you might even be related to one such as I am.But the key to success is to remain under control, relax, and take any response you get as light-heartily as you can.That way, when someone says "hey I think you should change this...."you say "ok, let me hear about it."Don't you think that's alot more savory then "DOOD U 4 TEH FLAMEZORZ!!11" Nod your head and smile, that way you won't continously scare people off.

I was going to offer my help to improve your story, but you repeatedly are nasty to me and everyone else who doesn't totally agree with you.You see, cause and effect.Keep that in mind, young grasshopper, and you shall go far.

- Edited By CyanideCotdPnuts On Thu 16th, Sep 2004 @ 10:16:52am

Uhhh ooookkkk? Maybe when you read my last message you imagined me with an angery voice/thought but in reality i was typing it in a smart-alic type of way. But i dont care what you do or not do but I will take your advice and change the storyline. Sorry to say but most of my friends arent very good at this stuff. But thanks for the info, umm old grasshopper?, lol just playing

Smart-alic or angry, both are uncalled for. You clearly aren't experienced, so you just have to learn to accept criticism. Like BW said, no one's attacking your mod. And as for 'What can I possibly do?" there are, depsite what people say, millions of new and original ideas. Try coming up with something on your own instead of copying a game already in existence, or this thread'll end up just like the last one.

Agreed.

I already got a new idea and it isnt based off of resident evil. It has a completly new story and its a completly new game. I will post the story once i get it how i want it

Ok my new idea was to much like retsp. Why cant i just keep my idea and just alter it a bit so it wont be so much like re: outbreak? You keep saying to fix my idea when its good enough. I want to keep my mod and work with it

RE:Outbreak is a fun game to say the least.What I'm saying is that you need to alter the storyline.Maybe someone who escaped the city was infected slightly and Umbrella soldiers forgot to scan them for T-Virus completely.The got out, soon enough died, reanimated, and infected some other region of the world.

And I simutaniously tought of that as i typed it, more like spur of the moment.If it was that easy for me, I imagine you can also do the same.

Well what i plan to do is Make it in Skylight city and the virus from Racoon City spread to Skylight City.

If you're having that much trouble coming up with an original story, you should just join a RE game already being made. I'm sure they're hiring.

And don't get too affected by these guys. They do this a lot on the Moddb forums. Just have to get used to it, I suppose

We're just redirecting the misguided.

Oh, and by the way, you can't say you can get away with a licensed game just because the creator is dead, because the rights are bought for a hefty amount. So, Dawn of the Dead is copyright Universal Studios (plus any other person holding a portion of the rights), so if you (Cyanide) get too comfortable with the new, you too will be feeling the C&D stick.

Just a warning of caution, not a threat.

Now when did I say I was using their material?If you look back, you'll see the only resemblance I have to the works of George Romero.

Well i have my story, ideas and plans for this mod set. Now i just need to find a team.

Dynamic.gamespy.com all great advice.

Story line..Hmmm could start off like something of this premise?

(Scene fade to a lab with poeple and one male scientist named Yanni )

*Phone rings yanni answers*

Yoyodyne Medical Research Divison, This Dr. Illustor speaking...Oh Alicia yes... Oh my god... yes I'll alert them now and start the evacuation.. yes !! I'll try to get my team and some of the others to the isolation labs and we can start to try to find out what happened?!? This is going to be a nightmare! yes get your ass out of there gather as many non infected personell with and the data you have and meet me and my team at The Skylight central inter-metro lightrail station. We'll meet and start work on a cure!!! Time is now a constraint issue! yes go ! (Yanni hangs the phone trying to regain his composure adjusts his tie and makes a announcment over the building internal PA system as not to alert the public and start a City wide panic like that at Racoon city.) Attention Attention this is a Class 4 Alert. Westech BioMedical labs has had a explosion of a unknown magnatiude there are survivors but there is also a bio-agent that was released and has already killed over 98% of the population at Racoon City. I am invoking Plan Alpha 9912B and all Vital Personell are to evacuate to the isolation labs on sublevel 28, section 34 sub division 12. Gather all the incoming data from Westech's backup database which I already have made avilb to you. Gather your data and evacuate to your assisgned posts in the underground complex. Everyone else please to evacuate the building gather your loved ones and migrate south of the country we will try to get you all out as possible. The Airfield has already been alerted and the transports are there ready to evac everyone out. You have a 38 Minute lead before the news is alerted of this, the national guard is already assembling around the city to handle riot control. All I can say at this point is God Speed and May God save us all. (Placing the headmic down The scene shows Yanni's face with tears down his face and him saying Alicia.....)

(Scene fade to black HAHAHA Think I'm cont? )

What ya think of that as a start???

Well its not exactly what im looking for and for storys like that, i would like to use cut scenes in the game. Like right one the first level starts you see the charecter and crap like that

That's a good story, Leonardo. Someday I would like to make a mod and have zombies as the enemies, but no Resident Evil at all. There's millions of ideas out there that feature zombies and viruses, but aren't connected to Resident Evil.

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