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VonToggle
VonToggle Ambition
Mar 17 2005 Anchor

I'd like to start off by saying, that I am very new to mod development.
But searching through this database, I have noticed a large number of Naruto mods, none of which will every be done, many needing coders. And all dead.

Why?

From my experience Naruto is a great show.

Why do all these projects die?

And why are they all in need of coders, wouldn't you find a coder before you even seriously consider making a mod?

While I believe these mods would be fun, I'm not sure they are ambitious enough, or great enough ideas. They all seem to be just kill each other with characters from the anime and take place on maps from the show.

While that is all well and good.

Couldn't something better be done?

If you want to be in Naruto, shouldn't you give it your best shot?

I mean make it almost like being in the show, I don't even know if this is possible, I would assume it would be damn hard. But couldn't you make some crazy game that boarders on an action RPG?

Make a unique ninja by choosing some options, gain xp... Become better, do missions with other players...
Fight npcs and bad players alike.

Think of it as a mini-mmorpg...
Only with depth, unlike most mmo's I've had the pleasure of playing.

I mean there is so much you can do with this idea.

If I were to do a naruto game, I would atleast try to attain 5 times this idea.

Though I can't yet, I am foolish and ambitious enough to try.

But before I fall flat on my face...

Does anyone think such a game could be possible?

Using an already made engine, then modding the crap out of it into something almost entirely new...

Can this be done?

(I know this was kind of an unfocused rant, but the main ideas are here...

Why do naruto mods fail?
Why don't they ever have coders?
Why don't they try something bigger with the idea?
Can a bigger idea be made?)

Well I thank those of you who read this...

And I would like to thank those of you who refrain from flaming me now...

Mar 17 2005 Anchor

Well, Naruto is great and all, but I really wish someone would try a different series; one without as much attention. Try Hajime no Ippo (boxing anime where a young boy of 16, after being bullied for so long, gets saved by a professional boxer, and aspires to be one himself). Or anything like that. I actually wish people would try to create their own anime mod--one that isn't based off a famous show or manga or anything like that.

I think a Naruto mod can be done, it's just that the transition is really hard to create from manga/anime show to mod. There are some good Naruto mods making some fierce development out there, but it'll take a while for them to go to beta.

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ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Mar 17 2005 Anchor

Well, Naruto is great and all


is everything you say and believe in a lie?

Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Anime games and mods have never done well on the PC. They are pretty much for japanese console fans.

Mar 18 2005 Anchor

ImTheDarkcyde wrote:

Well, Naruto is great and all


is everything you say and believe in a lie?


Dude, it's my opinion. Stfukthx.

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Edited by: Karuto

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CyanideCotdPnuts
CyanideCotdPnuts Das Boot
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

VonToggle wrote:
Why do naruto mods fail?
Why don't they ever have coders?


The reason is that any coder with some sort of dignity would refrain from pursuiing a mod that involves anything with an anime.

As many people who think anime mods are great, there are a greater number of people, these including coders, who believe that anime itself is stupid.

I may also note that coding is the hardest position to fill, and that you can get any idiot to fill in the other spots.Coders these days are looking for unique projects, not some cartoon rip-off.

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Vangor
Vangor Depravity Inclined Egotistical Savior
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Sok.hlgaming.com

Alot of mods don't get finished, often Anime, there is a definite stigma against most, granted that most are the worst concepts ever comprising whatever acid tripping thoughts could be written and probably mistranslated further, though few truly have solid, can be followed, story and plotlines, and interesting, non-childish characters, with a semblance of true conflicts.

Don't know if Naruto follows that, but, at first thought an Anime ends up being what I wrote above, hence why it is a stigma, and thus the stigma will be passed on.

Only ever been a fan of Akira, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, and perhaps a bit of Samurai X though I'm really tired of Jappop beginnings...another quarrel we'll have.

Carrick
Carrick proud member of [C.JFF]
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Anime mods = started by 12 year olds

Coders = not 12 years old

leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Carrick wrote: Anime mods = started by 12 year olds

Coders = not 12 years old


You hit the nail right on the head with that.

Most anime mod leaders don't really do anything for the mod at all except for a simple site and forum setup. The concept is usually along the lines of "well have these characters it's gonna be gr8!" and there's usually only model renders and never EVER ingame media. It's all for prestige, popularity and ego i could say.

The majority of anime mods that fail are a creation out of a obsession.

Edited by (in order): leilei, leilei

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InAction
InAction Animator
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Hmm, not 'everyone' is that young. But I must agree that most people who starts mods based on anime are small kids who don't know anything.

I once thought of starting a mod based on Naruto with ideas reassembling VonToggle's description of what a good Naruto-mod could've been. But, I of course went to moddb to check first and what did I find by then? One of the first mods and now probably the most in-active Naruto mod ever. Demon Seal.
Anyway, after I saw that I thought; "Why should I start a mod that someone else already started? I can follow their progress instead...." So, I saw no reason to stack moddb with another mod that would probably not be finished. But, now I'm standing here waiting to see if there is any intelligent mod-makers of anime but that is only foolish thinking.

Oh, btw, I thought like giving a message to all those anime-haters who only think that anime is Dragonball and Naruto; ever seen Last Exile or TEXHNOLYZE for example? You see, everything ain't mindless fighting series with the same jokes and styles seen over and over again. People need to see the trees instead of the forest. (If you didn't understand that sentence, I don't know who is the stupid person here...)

Oops, went off-topic a while there. But, in my opinion; Hell yes! It sure is possible to make a good mod if you have people who got the motivation for it.

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Mar 18 2005 Anchor

I lead a naruto mod that's just recently began working, and i'm not some 12 year old kid. I'm an 18 year old college student who's majoring in game design. I chose naruto because i believe it's a good basis for a mod and with good leadership and the team i had put together we could quite easily acheive a release, and it's something to keep my mind off of the frustrations of school and life. Not all anime mods are destined to fail. Any mod with good leadership and dedicated team members can achieve their ultimate goal.

Btw, I'm the leader of the mod that was previously linked. I'm by no means saying that the mod i run is better than any other but we do take pride in our work (well most of us). Our mod has a pretty decent chance at hitting a release. Though i do admit the odds certainly tell a different story, but the team including myself are working our asses off to show that we are capable of creating a mod that's worth playing.

Edited by (in order): Teknik, Teknik, Teknik

Mar 18 2005 Anchor

i am member of teks team and im not a 12 year old kid either, im a 16 year old student who is attemping to be professional level designer. i totaly agree with tek, every mod with good leadership, hard working and serious team members can reach their goals.

InAction
InAction Animator
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

See, as I said. Not 'everyone' is that young. ;)

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BattleLead
BattleLead Battleforce Project Leader
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Most mods die becasue the people hyping/leading the mods dont do anything besides hyping and "leading". Dev teams that lack developers rarley get passed the free web template site, First gun model, and 50 help wanted requests.

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Mar 18 2005 Anchor

Our mod is anime, but it's directed to a more-adult audience. It doesn't mean any of our members are kids, either. Our coder is in college, and most of the members are 15+. We're not some preteen fanatics, either. This is just a way to try out something different. If you guys want to stick with the cookie-cutter mold, go right on ahead.

Not to mention, an original anime mod is better than one based off of a series. It's a lot more difficult as well, but you don't have to be restricted to what other people think should be included, because you're not trying to recreate something. That garners a lot more freedom, anyway.

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ImTheDarkcyde
ImTheDarkcyde ¯\(º_o)/¯
Mar 18 2005 Anchor

more adult audience? i'd wager 70% of anime is for the adult audience

i'd watch it maybe, if everyone didnt have some chick with breasts the size of watermelons

embers.
embers. I'm a lumberjack....
Mar 20 2005 Anchor

wait so u dont watch anime because in some of them the chicks have big tits?

i think your the 12 year old darkcyde, not anime watchers

Mar 20 2005 Anchor

Maybe they code "Kawaii" and fail? my opinion about anime includes certain organic matter

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