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Apr 4 2003 Anchor

i just wanted bring it public, that the CACG does exist :P anywho i just wanted to share an article with you guys. I foun this article in the may 03 edition of gamepro magazine.

Love for Cel
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I was wondering how cel-shading is done and why people started using it in video games. My frineds and I have a theory that it makes it easier to create the levels, like in Robotech: Battlecry, as it alleviates the trouble of having to design each and every individual building. Did the video game designers just get lazy or are they trying to "express creativity?" Iw would be really nice if you could send me some information on cel-shading. Thanks for your time.

>Chance Meeks-Scottsdale, AZ


Make no mistake, game programming is hard and cel-shading doesnt necessarily offer shortcuts. Cel-shading's popularity started with an artistic decision. Jet Grind Radio, by sega for the Dreamcast is acknowledged as the first cel-shaded game; it made sense in a game about graffiti to have its characters and world reflect that visual style. Why did Sly Cooper, Wacky Races, and Link follow its lead? Simple it looks cool! Games have frequently fallen into two categories:"as realistic-looking as possible" and "as unrealistic-looking as possible." Cel-shading tends to belong to the latter, but it still makes sense within its own comic book come to life context. Plus, due to hardware limitations, cel-sahding techniques weren't feasible on older hardware, so on the current crop of consoles, designers are trying fresh stylistc ideas with the extra power. By the way, do you know your first name is a Monopoly card?

Okay lets discuss this topic...

for me i dissagree that its a popular thing, but i agree with cheapalert in the other thread saying that it is a shortcut.

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leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Apr 4 2003 Anchor

It's a trick to hide bad effort, yes.

Cel-shading is supported on ALL hardware btw. Even my old PowerVR PCX1 card from '95 could do it.

Cel-shading first appeared on X-Wing's blasters dated all the way back to 1992.

- Edited By CheapAlert On Fri 4th, Apr 2003 @ 2:18:59pm

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Apr 4 2003 Anchor

i guess its an acquired taste, but not one i would want to have. It's just so shabby looking and makes the designers look like amatuers

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Apr 4 2003 Anchor

I like cel-shading, however I prefer my games to look gritty and real. Cel-shading isnt a cop out, their was a tutorial on how todo cel shading in ut2k3 and it seemed more complex than using normal textures.

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PsychoFarmer
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Apr 4 2003 Anchor

cel shading sux, and can kiss my ass

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Apr 4 2003 Anchor

its all in the eye of the beholder... anywho, we need more opinions here.

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PsychoFarmer
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Apr 4 2003 Anchor

cel shading looks like it was a class project done by a kindergarten for the blind

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leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Apr 5 2003 Anchor

Cel-shading is a shortcut to money because kids wub it.

If Conker2 was celshaded... elementary society would die.

- Edited By CheapAlert On Sat 5th, Apr 2003 @ 1:53:11pm

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PsychoFarmer
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Apr 5 2003 Anchor

cel-shading is a cheap workaround to market games instead of working on making it look nice, they just cover up any mistakes they made and they say it is a special feature

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leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Apr 5 2003 Anchor

That's basically my point. Cel-shading must DIE

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PsychoFarmer
PsychoFarmer modDB King
Apr 5 2003 Anchor

coalition against cel-shaded games, join us cheapie!

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Apr 5 2003 Anchor

we have so far myself, PsychoFarmer, and BadCompany

we need you cheapie

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leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Apr 5 2003 Anchor

I thought I was already counted in :/

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jacksonj04
jacksonj04 Over 9000
Apr 5 2003 Anchor

i'm in. It's a way to not bother with the more realistic looking bits of shading, and it makes depth a bastard to judge

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PsychoFarmer
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Apr 5 2003 Anchor

so now we have ma, jade, cheap, jacko, bc... sounds like a motley crew, does it not?

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Apr 6 2003 Anchor

me O_o

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Apr 6 2003 Anchor

yes lets not forget azz0r

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