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Hello comrades!

It has been a while since the last announcement, and we are almost ready to release Ostheer. We are just finishing the translations of the locales needed for release, hunting for bugs and fine tuning stats. We expected to release Ostheer at June 22th, however, we concluded than releasing it in such date will compromise the result and we decided to release it a couple of weeks after, at July 6th. We are confident that the experience we offer is different enough to the one offered in Company of Heroes 2, and we hope you enjoy it.

Regarding Ostheer Beta, we thank the support of the players who joined us and gave us feedback in the internal section of the forums, we also thanks the players for not giving up waiting for us to release Ostheer and we hope those who faltered to give Eastern Front a second chance now that Ostheer is being released. Now the release date is at hand, we would like to announce we have tweaked a bit the Soviet faction(but I guess a lot of you already knew about it).

So, let's discuss about the changes that Soviets have been experimenting in the last months of development:

Propaganda War Strategy
We feel the changes done here centers it more around the concept of Soviet propaganda than before, among these changes we have tried to make Propaganda more appealing besides Navals and Katyushas. The changes we made aim at making the gameplay more variable in terms of starting and global gameplay strategies.

Among the changes the ones to 'Not a step back!' are likely the most significant changes. Now it affects units in a large circular area and provides significant defensive boni. On top of that, the unlock of this ability enables conscripts, Naval infantry and Strelky to construct defenses. Also, soviet players get access to a NKVD Commissar call in - the Commissar will improve Conscript's combat performance by his presence and enables players to upgrade their Conscripts into Shtrafnie troops, which are armed with defensive machine guns.

Also, Propaganda now houses several improved defensive emplacements to fortify soviet territory and a complete revamp of "Red Tide". While before it was just a generic call in it is now an extremely powerful ability. As long as it's active infantry units will take damage but will not die to anything but artillery, tanks and sniper fire.

Urban Combat War Strategy
Urban combat also received several changes to make it more appealing compared to Breakthrough.

As Partisans are very lacking units and in general were not worth to be used over Street Fighting we decided to change their role from sneaky commando-units to fast responding, well rounded but squishy support troops. They can move at normal speed while cloaked and received the ability to throw molotovs instead of grenades. This way they're more focused on denying cover and as anti-weapon teams out of stealth. Additionally, they're also equipped with VPGS Stun Grenades, which enable other soviet troops to finish off escaping vehicles. Of course they can still sneak around the map and lay down demo charges to confuse the enemies of the Soviet Union!

Also, the Flare was quite useless as a doctrinal ability, and now has been replaced by something completely different: A smoke barrage! As some of you might know, smoke makes units very resistant to suppression and normal weapons have very low accuracy while used in smoke. However, grenades, flamers and artillery are mostly unaffected by it. Since Urban focuses on close combat fights, artillery and fire weapons the smoke barrage adds a very powerful tool to protect your own infantry forces while still maintaining a high damage output in infantry fights!

Also, the KV 2 now really is even more of a beast than before as it now can provide artillery barrages from afar onto enemy fortifications! The Germans will tremble when they hear the 152mm shells heading into their direction.

Conscripts
They had always the feeling of being worthless and investing resources on them make the player bleed. We worked in a way to improve this situation and now they're strongly connected to the Propaganda doctrine and received some buffs in several areas. They now come in form of a call-in instead of being recruited through a building.

The most apparent changes are now the introduction of KRAK(RPG43) at-grenades as AT-ability and the earlier availability of full rifles, which now only require the armoury to be built. Also, as stated above, they now scale well when used with Propaganda doctrine and are a viable way to be used as a mainline infantry. However, Strelky are overall still superior since conscript veterancy mostly revolves around utility.

Strelky
This unit has been tweaked in a way to offer players better support for their strategies. Strelky are now available with both Soviet Support Barracks upgrades and with the Soviet Tank Hall, so they'll always be a valuable asset to every soviet army.

They now have access to PTRS 41 antitank rifles, which can be used to defend against vehicles like halftracks, Pumas, Armoured Cars and other vehicles which otherwise forced players to get AT guns. On the other hand the PPSh got some finetuning to make it more reliable and the VPGS Stun Grenades were moved to other units.

Command Squad
This unit has received several changes as well, first of all, they are now a 4 men squad; secondly their abilities have been tweaked and now they get Charge! in Propaganda War Strategy, the artillery strike is now available with Urban Combat Strategy and the Blackout ability (similar to the one used in CoH:O) is now assigned when selecting Breakthrough Assault. Also, Danko and other Commissars now will use the Nagant revolver instead of the Tokarev TT-33.


Gaz 43
We though Soviets needed a jeep-like vehicle to fight against snipers and that the Observer Team was good for the task, so we brought this unit to the Soviet roster, why not the BA64? Because that model is not ready yet so, this model would work for the role intended.


Observer Team
As we already disclosed, this unit was replaced by the Gaz 43, however, players who prefer to use the old spotters can still use them, it is only needed to switch it on the Reward Unit panel. They have been tweaked as well, they now have two active abilities, flare and artillery barrage and they no longer have the observe ability button; they have cover as passive ability and when they are cloaked, they automatically use observer bonuses(this means passive cover and observe were merged). We made this because the squad had issues retreating while in observe mode and the only way to fix this was changing how the ability was called.


Sniper Team
The Sniper Team is back! However, many things were tweaked in order to make it balanced, so against enemy snipers they act as a single entity, which means one shot kill them both, nonetheless, when you fight against them with vehicles or infantry they behave as a two-men squad, being capable of reinforcing when one comrade falls... the reinforcement times and cost are lower than it used to be in the previous versions.

SU 76
SU 76 has received an additional role and it now offers indirect support for your tactics. We remember a lot of players asked for this feature in the SU 76 a while ago, but it was something we were keeping for 2.0. SU 76 can now fire barrages but it needs to be lock down first, and it won't be able to move any longer until you decide to stop the indirect fire mode.

T-34s
These units also had a couple of changes, first of all they can now always carry infantry, which means they no longer need Breakthrough Assault for this, and also the upgrade into T-34/85 from the armoury works different now: Instead of unlocking a new T-34/85 unit, it will no longer allow the Tank Hall to build T-34/76 and it will build only the new T-34/85. This doesn't means your old T-34/76 just become 85s, but they will be left as it until they die... however, each T-34/76 unit left will be equipped with an individual upgrade to make it a T-34/85, so it is up the player to continue using it as it or make it better for a nominal cost.


We are still working in the new Soviet models, so, you can expect a couple of new Soviet objects to replace old stuff in the next version! :). We have also some screenshots from the Ostheer in action, in our map Königsberg, courtesy of our Devs Ape and Max.

Action in Königsberg Action in Königsberg
Action in Königsberg Action in Königsberg
Action in Königsberg

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blu_magic101
blu_magic101

YAY

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moraman
moraman

Finally, nice to see that the community will be able to play as the Ostheer.

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TheBorz
TheBorz

Can't wait!

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TheSoldier
TheSoldier

I know the SU-76 is the only non-doctrinal TD for the Soviets, but can it be made more realistic? Less penetration, but more damage versus infantry. And a better TD should be added: the Zis-30. Shouldn't say much about the Ostheer, though.

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roman9441
roman9441

:) this mod is awesome it the reason im still keep company of heroes in my pc , laptop

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Cursedboy86
Cursedboy86

Are they doing anything for the royal Marines?

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@Cursedboy86
Right now we are debating what are we going to do with them, because they aren't balanced at all. Most likely RMC will be disabled in 2.0 and we'll work on them to improve it after we finish with Ostheer vs Soviet balance.

Currently we are deciding between:
a) Remove it at all.
b) Keep it as it.
c) Make it a new faction so it can be properly balanced.

And while certainly the last one seems ambitious, after 2.0 is released we will open a poll for the community to vote. Once getting the feedback of the community over the matter and our own private discussions we will be able to decide what we should do next.

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Guest
Guest

looking forward to it, not impressed by CoH2, much prefer the traditional command trees, not the pay to win/unlock system that is in CoH2 --- thanks for a great mod revitalizing a great game

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CadianK36
CadianK36

What do you mean by the p2w system? Do you mean the DLC that you get with the collectior's edition? I agree with you. But still the game has it's own good sides and flaw's so does vCoH both game's are still amazing :) And CoH2 manages to be refreshing at times.

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putoconcarne
putoconcarne

Awesome news, guys! But I just want to point out that the paragraph about Red Tide was cut short. Lol. "While before it was just a generic call in it is now an extremely powerful ability. As long as(???)"

I was rather wondering how it was revamped so yeah...

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Valerian
Valerian

lol well spotted.

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

Hahaha... I knew I forgot something XD.

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

The missing paragraph is now complete. It says:

"Also, Propaganda now houses several improved defensive emplacements to fortify soviet territory and a complete revamp of "Red Tide". While before it was just a generic call in it is now an extremely powerful ability. As long as it's active infantry units will take damage but will not die to anything but artillery, tanks and sniper fire."

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Euphoria_21
Euphoria_21

What the...?
With all respect, that sounds horrid.
Why can't it be like the "allied war machine" of infantry, or (just spit-balling here) a passive ability to increase the man count of every squad by one?
Anything but a god-mode ability for infantry, it just seems ridiculous.

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@Euphoria_21
The first suggestion is useless for infantry, the American ability is good because it recovers vehicles, but recovering infantry is not so good. That was why this idea was discarded.

The second suggestion won't work, even if used by any other faction because the squads are not made the same each other. That will be bugged.

You are exaggerating much. I don't see how that's a god mode for infantry. They are not immune to:

a) Armoured units: Puma, Armoured Car, StuG, StuH, both Panzer IVs, Ostwind, Wirbelwind, etc.
b) Artillery units: Mortars, HT mortars and Nebelwerfer teams. Not to mention artillery abilities.
c) Snipers.

Grenade abilities also affect them IIRC.

Not to mention Ostheer own counters. Besides, they continue taking damage, just not die, so if you use this ability thinking it is a god mode for infantry, you have a high chance to screw your infantry troops once the timer wears off. It not lasts forever ;).

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ab2531
ab2531

How did you code that exactly? It would be interesting for my ... zombies.

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@ab2531
I'll send you the details by PM, or you can add me to steam to talk, my ID is blackbishop.

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ubermensche
ubermensche

So you guys decided to release it the weekend I'm away. :'(

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ivans113
ivans113

all the new things is good, but i still think Soviet side need to have some Anti-Aircraft weapons as German got airplanes but nothing to defend from their attacks...

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ubermensche
ubermensche

The Russians have that T-90 with 2 .50 call AA guns. Although I have to admit that it's pretty pitiful compared to the Kugelblitz that Ostheer has...

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@ubermensche
Against infantry... likely but against planes I'd not say so.

Anyway, the T-90 is being tweaked for the next patch as well.

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peppel
peppel

who needs company of heroes 2 when you have this mod.

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Velancious
Velancious

CoH2 Soviets and Ostheer forces are different from the Eastern Front mod in a pretty big way. For people who have CoH2 like me, I'd even go back to play this mod for the new material.

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elim500
elim500

I can't play it in Korean.
If I run it and start skirmish, it offs.

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Walki
Walki

You have to use the Steam version of CoH

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Velancious
Velancious

I have a suggestion for the Sniper Team. I feel it sounds kinda...ridiculous both units die when the Sniper kills one. I suggest that both members of the team have their health lowered, and when one dies, the ability to snipe enemy snipers goes away. (They fight like standard Riflemen basically when shooting at them, as the actual Sniper was killed by the German Sniper, so it's just the spotter left)

An alternative to that solution would be that when the Soviet Sniper dies, the Mosin Nagrant is dropped on the battlefield for anyone to pick up. (This allows the Spotter a fair chance of grabbing the rifle and returning the favor, but by then the German Sniper might have cloaked and is preparing his 2nd shot)

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@Velancious
The problem is still that one member survives and means it keeps their earned veterancy. Which put the unit in advantage in the vet race.

That's why both need to die, just as every sniper dies when sniped/countersniped :(.

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Velancious
Velancious

Yeah, well I see what you mean. It makes the German Sniper less useful in CoH2 because the Soviet Snipers could take two shots instead of one.

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ainiyijiu
ainiyijiu

太好了,不知道能不能优化多余的CPU占用

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Guest
Guest

URA!

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Killer_midget2
Killer_midget2

Is the M1910 maxim mg going to be in the game because the soviets dont have a hmg unless they capture one and they are weak in that sense because they cant support infantry except with tanks

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@midgetdiver
You will have the Maxim on the Gaz 43 and in the MG nests.

There is not an hmg team for this weapon because there are no animations that match it.

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Killer_midget2
Killer_midget2

So will the soviets have any HMG teams

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@midgetdiver22
As I wrote before, the only Maxim gunners you will see are the ones in the mg nests and the ones on the Gaz 43. Soviets are not going to have an own HMG team.

I guess you could use the Gaz 43 with Maxim as a mobile mg team.

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CadianK36
CadianK36

Did you guy's think of importing the CoH2 Maxim team animation to vCoH? It might work

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@HerrMisterMe
We could try that, but that wouldn't be polite. We prefer to stick to what we have at CoH (and CoH:O to some extent).

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Kestrel1993
Kestrel1993

IS-2/3 gun fixed????

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@Kestrel1993
Nope. We don't have the new models ready for the IS2. Also, it seems the IS3 will be removed later.

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Kestrel1993
Kestrel1993

Is it possible to what su-100 returns, even as reinforcement in doctrine?

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Guest
Guest

cannot locate file from ef launcher 1.801...

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@Guest
Make sure you installed it in the correct path. Maybe it was installed in a different folder.

In what site did you download the installer?

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Aw_Vincent
Aw_Vincent

Will there be any italian tanks ? Such as Semovente 75/18 and L6/40 ? I have missed some news in the past :(

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blackbishop Author
blackbishop

@Aw_Vincent
Not in this version. We are planning to make a new faction/reward faction focused on the Axis allied countries. But that will come in a future patch.

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Guest
Guest

太渣了

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willychong8921
willychong8921

Why would you say that?!?!?

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Killer_midget2
Killer_midget2

What is the T-34 ability (not the upgrade)
and when is ostheer released in EU (what time)

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TotalFun
TotalFun

T-34 can transport your troops -passive- and something like max speed. IIRC
Guys from Eastern Fron - Where are you from ? (Us or Eu)

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Haze221
Haze221

I want to play Ostheer.

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Bugeen
Bugeen

Great job guys.

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