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kirthewizard
kirthewizard

"Anduin" and "Lothar" are both given names, which is why he's been sometimes addressed as "Sir Lothar" or "Lord Lothar" in the books.

The House name should be "Arathi", with Lothar having a lineage that dates back to the High Kings of Arathor, potentially with him having claims to (non-existent) e_arathor or even k_stormwind.

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UncleChristiof
UncleChristiof

"Anduin" is Lothar's first name, and "Lothar" is his last name. The examples given in your post are more about his last name. And we used it as the name of the house. The House Arathor's times have passed, so we decided to single out the House Lothar as the separate from the dynasty of the High Kings of Arathor.

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kirthewizard
kirthewizard

But you can't address somebody as "Sir Lastname". "Sir" should be used specifically with a given name.

Lothar is noted as "the last of Arathi", even though if it was said about the tribe, there'd be other descendants among the people of Stromgarde and Stormwind, meaning: "the last of Arathi" means the last of Arathi dynasty.

We've had discussions about this on Scrolls of Lore, and looked at how the way Lothar's names are used throughout novels and game manuals.

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UncleChristiof
UncleChristiof

Hm... ok. Could you please give a link to the topic on Scrolls of Lore where this question was discussed. Just because it might be good to understand how does Sir Lothar's names work =D

The problem is that guys from Blizzard have already called him "Sir Lothar" and "Sir Anduin Lothar", consequently, they made a mistake. That's why we do not want to change his name until Blizzard give the community the official info about using the Lothar's name.
P.S. Also we have things like "Lord Lastname" or "Sir Lastname" in Warcraft - just remember Genn Greymane or Lothar himself.

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kirthewizard
kirthewizard

Actually, scratch our discussions, I checked out old tweets of Loreology, and Sean said that Lothar is a surname, so that's a Blizz Historian confirmation... Even though he calls himself "Sir Lothar" here:
Blizzplanet.com

Sorry, and carry on. I guess we could say that "Lothars" are a cadet house of Arathi Dynasty? Something like that.

(Lord Lastname is indeed a common form, unlike Sir/Ser, but w/e)

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kirthewizard
kirthewizard

Then again, in the followup tweet he said to me that it was his personal opinion and not actual canon.

Anyway, do what you like. There's a few projects we have there on early Warcraft lore, like Ramses's take, or Marthen's Historian take on Warcraft, and people have treated Lothar as both a cadet house name and a given name. Sorry for bothering you.

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Guest
Guest

an awesome idea i would love to see. Keep up good work!!

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