This modification offers an alternative gameplay to Tiberian Wars involving many Tiberian Sun units which many CnC fans (like me) missing in vanilla CNC3 and add even new my made units which you can't find anywhere else. Story is quite the same like Tiberian Wars, but is all about what if GDI and Nod do not abandon technologies they have used in Tiberian Sun era and instead of that further developed them. But it's not only that, there are many visual, sound and balance changes which I want to see and hear in my mod, new sounds, new music, new effects (like blood and gore, new infantry deaths, new more realistic missile trails) and many more.
Ok so the here we have new upgrades for new avatar. Right now i experiment with 3 possible upgrades. Once again you have to chose with one you want your avatar upgrade with.
From left to right
Napalm launcher - good vs structures
Tiberium beams - good vs vehicles
Propaganda tower - support
So you can chose if you want avatar to be better vs vehicles or vs structures or support your units in frontline.
Note that propganda tower is not final and that logo might be removed.
Are the normal upgrades still there or have they been replaced
1-honestly, they are all excellent, but I think Napalm cannon shape does not fit the avatar, something smaller and curved shape might fit him better.
2-Another ideas is to let infantry get inside the avatar and use ther weapon but m not sure its good ideas.
Always love this mod.
I thought Tiberium beams were good against infantry (tiberium beam upgrades for shredder cannon and nod buggy) and not vehicles.
ah beams i thought it said beans i was like "wtf"
keep the propganda tower you could combine it with the
Rage Generator from the redeemer.Or if you don't like it
instead of the Rage Generator y not put Infantry upgrades also
like the redeemer.But only putting one Infantry and changing
one of it's hand into what ever the redeemer.
upgrades
1)Militants=Anti-infantry autocannon arm.
2)Militant rocket squad=Anti-armor and anti-aircraft rocket launcher
arm.
3)Saboteur=An automatic repair module strap to the back
4)Black Hand=Anti-infantry and anti-structure flamethrower arm.
Like the idea, maybe FANATIC=suicide drone
Nice man... cooler than original Avatar!
Just put Kanes face there
Shouldn't the Arm Slots and Backpack Slots be separate Upgrades?
Like...
Arm Slot 1: Flamers
Arm Slot 2: Particle Beams
Arm Slot 3: Plasma Cannons
Backpack Slot 1: Propoganda
Backpack Slot 2: Anti Air VLS Missiles
Backpack Slot 3: Stealth Generator
What do you think?
Avatar with few upgrades, when he dont looks like to have the option to "commandeer" the parts? How can you upgrade it?
You just buy upgrade on unit itself like in v1.4
Hmm yea, the logo needs to go I think, unless it just pops up temporarly.
Otherwise it'd be rather redicolous considering in warfare you want to be sneaky and not light up your valuable units like a christmas tree.
Um, I think when you go stomping around in a bloody great mech, all pretense of subtlety and stealth is lost anyway.
I like the hologram!
I like the hologram too!
The brotherhood has alot of untrained masses that needs the mark of Nod to guide them, I think this is very good symbolism of that! :D
I like the hologram as well.
And to pleq with all the people complaining about the KW feel, the only thing I didn't like about KW was the sub factions. So as long as carnius doesn't implement that fail system, I don't see why it(The Hologram) is a bad thing.
I like that there is a hologram, but I'm not to fond of the idea of it just spelling something out constantly, maybe it should be a rotating cylinder marque display of a propaganda vid.
EDIT-
Oh, I thought it was an A, like it just spelled out Kane over and over, I didn't see the bottom portion of the logo due to transparency in the middle and being unobservant. This hologram is fine, disregard the above statement.
I also love the hologram. Nod is a SUPERPOWER after all, why not wave their banner as their massive death machines march on the GDI?
beautiful thanx for support the fans carnius! and yeah im agree with Atlas, maybe turn the logo to a nod flag would be cool? its just a idea...
Wouldnt a flag look a bit silly?
I dunno just my oppinion. I like the holo cuz it gives it a bit of a "futurish" look :)
What about a huge ******* cloak with the standard scorpion tail on the back while the hologram pops up for any special abilities the thing might have?
Nice to see that the modular avatar is back. This is a important gameplay feature. However this picture shows more than any other that the new avatar is extremly looking like a zone armor in nod colors. Those legs need to be less hvy and more similar to the raptor like ones of the old avatar, and the cockpit needs to die. If anything give it a central eye or something along the lines of IronMan's arc reactor. Also the hand byceps area needs to be aloot thiner. This hvy design simply doesn't fit in with nod's style.
I think I would be sad to see that Nod icon removed.
However, it isn't my call to make.
Maybe the upgrades should be only 2 like in 1.4 and in the previous Avatar picture. Tiberium beams as standard and the player can choose between the propaganda or the napalm upgrade. I believe everyone will be happy in this way.
Very, very good. Avatar keeps getting more and more bad ***. Great.
i think a picture of Kane's face would be more suited for the propaganda tower (the Nod symbol should already be somewhere of the unit itself) although this idea is probably a lot harder to implement. anyhoo, great work as always
Ofcourse it should carry the holy battle-scarred standard of the Avatar-Legion which predates back into the time of CABAL's reign instead an generic Nod logo hologram.
/letscopyeverythingwh40kbecauseitssoawesome attitude
On the other hand imagine how units tend to clung up in one place and pass through each other in C&C sometimes and how bad either would look when that **** occurs.
Avatar looks pretty nice, and nice upgrade ideas. But I think you have to think how you make the propaganda upgrade, because if you play as nod you could build many Avatars, and then upgrade every one with the propaganda upgrade. Then every avatar would support the other one and I think they would get too strong. :/ I hope you get what I mean, because my english is not thaaat good. Sorry. >.<
You mean 'stacking'? I don't think that's going to be a problem.
Maybe not. I do not think that the aurea will be accumulative.
Carnius very good update :D, when will the release come though?
One idea for the Avatar's hologram:
You can make it so the hologram shows up for some time and then goes away, each time depicting a different thing, like one time the Nod logo, the other a picture or video of Kane, a Hand of Nod etc.
I think it'd look and feel better if it's that way other than showing all the time.
I like that idea, playmsbk. Maybe also show CABAL.
The hologram is good as the way it is.
Avatars upgrades: everybody can be happy about them :)
Me likes it a LOT!
This is excellent! Great Job Carnius!
I honestly think the hologram needs more red, darker red. And flickering. Holograms in war scifi always flicker. Otherwise this is much appretiated to get the lazy Nod members to actually fight :P
Now this feels proper in terms of upgrade paths. It still may be slightly inefficient in terms of having to upgrade per unit but the upgrades are substantially more useful compared to the previous ones. I have the feeling tiberium beams is kinda like the equivilant to GDI railguns upgrade
Can't wait to try them out they look Tasty!
This is by most far the coolest modification you made to the avatar. Now i'm anxious to play with them against mammoth tanks.
love it
this new Avatar model is far better than the default
every picture gets me more excited for 1.5! :D
looks like overlord tanks
You could make it so, once purchased, you can toggle the hologram 'on' or 'off'. Make it so the propaganda field is normal size with it on, at the cost of stealth. And reduce the propaganda field to fairly close in, but stealthier as a result, with it off.
Hail to the Avatar of Carnius!
Excellent.
how about a conversion beam? short range beam charging very slow, converting one enemy unit to avatar side, at long as the avatar live.???
this avatar is better than the EA's Avatar
Carnius, How about 2 small Napalm cannons on both shoulders of the upgraded Avatar ?
that would be like redmeer
Oops.! u r right...but I still imagine it.