Darth Revan is back...A Sith Lord from a time period 4,000 years prior to star wars: A new hope. One of the greatest strategists in the galaxy, his actions had lasting ramifications for the Republic, Jedi and the Sith for millennia to come. Dark Lord of the Sith is an alternate history to the original trilogy, the storyline is 4000 years in the future, therefore, making it non-canonical; a story of what would have happened if certain key events in their respective canon sources had played out differently. TEN STORY LINE CAMPAIGNS, Eight Gigabytes (roughly 8 billion bytes)...Groundbreaking, 'Dark Lord of the Sith' is a technical triumph...Featuring TEN STORY LINE CAMPAIGNS; the Fourth Faction is fully playable in GC or Skirmish mode. In conclusion, uncompromising, unrestricted and fully executable game play...'Bad to the Bone', a formidable beast.

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Red_5
Red_5

do the turrets move? also, did you make the model?

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Jeroen(imo)
Jeroen(imo)

He didn't, that's evillejedi's ISD, and it's got rotating turrets. Actually, that'd depend from which mod he ripped it from, I've seen some of them use static turrets instead of rotating ones on it.

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Red_5
Red_5

well isn't that great to know. kind of an eyeopener actually, because I can't seem to find one model that is directly made by knokos

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DarthHumanist
DarthHumanist

Does it matter? He has given credit on every model and only used models that were made available for public use. It's not like he stole them without permission.

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Boda
Boda

Every Star Wars related model made by anyone is owned only by Lucasarts and no one can steal it because Lucasarts has made it available for public use.

Anyone can use any model for his mods and any credits but Lucasarts are optional.

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Killshot666
Killshot666

Coding is half the work, and it can very time consuming. so please excuse the work of ONE guy, trying to make a mod that many others wouldn't try with a team....people these days

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Killshot666
Killshot666

its funny how his mod still gets fans and people who enjoy and love it, despite your constant banter saying otherwise. When are yours actually going to be finished? and I mean completely? With actual GCs and not skirmishes? Get back to me when you have otherwise it just seems like your whining that this mods back up despite your protests.

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Knokos Author
Knokos

Welcome back Killshot! I am in complete agreement...No KIDDY Mod here! Your comment bears repeating 'Reference Geroenimo'.

Killshot666 5hours 36mins ago replied:
its funny how his mod still gets fans and people who enjoy and love it, despite your constant banter saying otherwise. When are yours actually going to be finished? and I mean completely? With actual GCs and not skirmishes? Get back to me when you have otherwise it just seems like your whining that this mods back up despite your protests.

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Jeroen(imo)
Jeroen(imo)

"its funny how his mod still gets fans and people who enjoy and love it, despite your constant banter saying otherwise."

I'm fairly sure I never said his mod wouldn't ever get fans. I say he ripps off other people, like Republic at war, from which he did steal a bunch of models from a while ago. Fact. That's why his mod was taken down.

"No KIDDY Mod here!"

I would dare say the exact same. The difference between your mod and mine is that I have new models, textures, rigging and coding, while you only do coding, so obviously you've got loads more code than I do.
Then calling mine "Unfinished" is both untrue and disrespectful, as I haven't seen you attempt any modelling whatsoever, instead, you take other peoples models without their permission.

I would close my statement saying that in the time it took me to make my lucrehulk model+texture I could've made your entire mods worth of coding, but that would be highly disrespectful. That aside, so are you, and I can't help but feel somewhere there's a truth in the statement.

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rumiks
rumiks

go back and do a only skirmish mod you cant even use the normal mods gc's and still waiting germo seriously you need to shut up and make a mod worth peoples time because so far your mod is not the mod we need or want and i believe i could find half your ****** models in warb nulls stack knokos does the mod we want and need .
germo you do the mods we never see finished .
man i can't wait for the next mod knokos man

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Jeroen(imo)
Jeroen(imo)

The only thing that could be considered a fact in your message is:

"and i believe i could find half your ****** models in warb nulls stack"

Which if you had checked your facts before proceeding to post, you would've found this one be untrue. All models are rerigged and a lot of them have the uvw completely redone. You wont find the models in ORAW anywhere else.

Further more I'd like to respond to:

"make a mod worth peoples time"
The download and track counter on both the old download of ORAW and the current one seems to disprove your statement that my mods aren't worth time.

And:

"you do the mods we never see finished"
I do believe I've released plenty of versions, you should check them out, many people enjoyed them a lot.

And:

"because so far your mod is not the mod we need or want"
Again, plenty of people seem to whole heartedly disagree with this subjective opinion. I think it's slightly sad you feel this way, especially considering you truely sound like a butthurt 14 year old here. Try to act a little more like an adult, nobody likes a jerk.

As a side note: I critisized this mod for stealing assets, and I get a responds from a 14 year old small man who fails to mention any facts to back up his worthless statements, please try to act a little wiser next time.
Also, please try to come up with some facts and arguments before writing your next comment, because it really makes you look quite dumb, and I feel bad having to disect your comment in such a way.

As a last note, your entire comment is one massive fallacy, a Argumentum ad hominem to be precise, it has no integrity at all. I understand from the way you write that you haven't gotten that in school yet, or haven't ever gotten in in your education whatsoever, so I will link you to the wiki article so you might enlighten yourself before making such valueless comments again, and that you may learn something from it:

En.wikipedia.org

Have a nice day,
-G ;)

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Jeroen(imo)
Jeroen(imo)

Wait, did this man just say warb nulls models are "******"?

Crusify this infidel.

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cheesecake645
cheesecake645

Insulting Warb null's workmanship is a very unintelligent thing to have done... warb has been one of the most generous modders in the whole community and his models are excellent. I've only seen one or two other people insult his work.

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pincuishin
pincuishin

Omg Cheesecake and Geroenimo? ahh my god I love you guy's work sadly I have to rebuy EAW FOC I lost my codes for the game... but ORAW and LEGACY are by far my fa mods up with ROTM and ICW great work gents can't wait for the yuzhan vong mod. Hmmm I had followed this and just about every mod for FOC I've crossed some bad ones and inactive ones off the list guess maybe I should add this one huh?

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Killshot666
Killshot666

Bro, your mods are like them ten minute add-ons that leave you wanting more.... then it just never happens. your good at modeling i give you that, but other then that you whine and moan to much. and Bro, if its so bad and he stole so much as you say, then why is the mod up? why is that we have an actual game that we can play longer then twenty minutes and not be repeating the same process from the day before? you spend to much time in your computer bro, get out live a little instead of whining and bitching about **** you don't like, its life, its full of let downs princess.

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Jennings17soco
Jennings17soco

Hey Knokos just a recommendation. Dont use such big lasers for the ships, they cause a lot of lag when you get into large conflicts. The vanilla sized ones work much better and much less lag.

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Guest
Guest

larger-scaled projectiles has no effect on performance. replacing them with particles (which is what these look like), now THAT does affect performance.

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Jeroen(imo)
Jeroen(imo)

Appart from looking ****** large laser particles or meshes don't really have an impact on the performance, unless you put too many emittors/triangles in the model. Judging from what I'm seeing here, there's like, 3 emmitors, so that shouldn't most definitly be a problem.

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Iamadog=?
Iamadog=?

Good point, but is being a jerk necessary? I don't think so.

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Jeroen(imo)
Jeroen(imo)

It wasn't meant as being jerky, it was meant as a true statement, large laser projectiles were used to bad effect in Thrawn's Revenge, and the mod suffered a lot from it graphically speaking. Compare it to Legacy, and you'll see the size does very much matter. The lasers in this picture look like the laser particle seems to be 3 emittors max, if it's not 1. No offence was intended.

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cheesecake645
cheesecake645

I would recommend using smaller projectiles as well, I believe it would be more aesthetically pleasing and make more sense. They dwarf the fighters and cover a lot of the battle-space.

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Knokos Author
Knokos

Consider it done.

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KeepAmazinn
KeepAmazinn

I cant wait the mod looks more and more amazing!

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Guest
Guest

Will you guys please stop bickering!?! This is a mod site, not facebook. I agree that people's work should be acknowledged when possible if used in another mod. That being said, I personally love this mod and would like to thank Knokos for his nice work. I would also like to thank the rest of the modding community who helped Knokos directly or indirectly make a terrific mod. Why don't Knokos and Geroenimo work together on a mod? Imagine what a masterpiece that could be. Brilliant custom models with innovative coding taking Empire at War to a whole new level.

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scorch1
scorch1

While that would be great and many people believe this to be true, the chances are it will never happen, both Knokos and Geroenimo have their own different viewpoints on what makes a mod brilliant and I'm afraid there is also too much water under the bridge, too many personal issues with each other, to me, they are two totally different people with different norms and values, and they are not compatible. For example, you would of thought all the rich people in the world would all pool together and create an extremely massive, successful corporation but it will never happen, as people like to do there own thing and be in control, the risks would be lower to all sides as well.

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HelloImMoonMoon
HelloImMoonMoon

Lasers are bigger than starfighters, that looks bad, if you enhance your projectiles in all your ships, mod would be better, i like this mod, its different, but that is one thing i dont like, the size of the lasers :/ if you could do that and re-skins some models as well :) good mod, i like it!

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