.92 Balance Report Thread - Red Alert 3 Paradox mod for C&C: Red Alert 3

Please report any serious balance issues you encounter. This is not a place to discuss these issues, just report them; make a seperate thread if you want to discuss it. Any discussion or off-topic posts will be deleted.

Quad turrets deal almost no damage. A Confederate Hawker moved within range of one, emptied its payload, landed for camo, took off again, and escaped with half its health left.

Confederate RC car nailbombs deal almost no damage. 3 exploded next to an attack dog and the attack dog survived. EDIT: It might be a range issue actually.

Edited by: Kerensky287

When will .92 be available for download, or is this a thread for a closed beta of the version?

Galgus wrote: When will .92 be available for download, or is this a thread for a closed beta of the version?

Check comments.

Ah, I see.

PE's got hit with the nerf bat HARD. Their regular shots don't do much of anything against tanks anymore.

Longbow Mk II missiles are rather weak vs buildings I think. Not too much of a buff but enough to make them marginally effective.

Do the Confed upgrades work yet? Even with all speed upgrades applied, I didn't notice much of a difference in my M100 speed for the 9:00 spent on the upgrades. Maybe make them more noticeable.

The mines stick around longer than they should (I recall something from the wiki about Allies having strict laws about Mines...but they were there for 8 minutes.)

Also, the Proton Collider's power req. is 0. That was like, (Posting it here, don't know if it's a bug or a Balance issue. Sort it out for me & the like )

the Apollo still can't do shit about the Kirov, two apollos actually hurted it slower then it healed.

Dustrunners en masse are waaaay op. I demolished both Ferris and Greg with them. I zoomed past base defenses into their bases and cleaned up. I'd suggest starting with an armor nerf.

They were aways like that

Not sure if this is a bug or not but the Rosen Bridging Tank cannot teleport units any distance that is really useful

R.-Firefly wrote: The mines stick around longer than they should (I recall something from the wiki about Allies having strict laws about Mines...but they were there for 8 minutes.)

That's your FPS. SAGE/RNA measures time with the FPS, so it seemed like a lot longer to you.

@Norm: That's balancing.

Jammer Trucks are probably OP since they can single-handendly shut down any unit. If this includes surgical strike bombers etc. then the Jammer Truck can pretty much make those protocols useless.

We do have to change the way the jammer truck works against air targets. It was on the to-do list but slipped our minds.

Edit: Moved everything to bug report thread.

Edited by: g.a

Prospectors can crush Beagles.
PAWI towers stealth from the second they are placed on the map, however long their construction timer has to go.

this was on Canals of Carnage.

Those sound more like bugs to me.

Specifically because the first is actually listed among the .921 bugfixes.

Kerensky287 wrote: Specifically because the first is actually listed among the .921 bugfixes.

It's just a changelog

I like the idea of submerging dolphins but it makes them terrible ineffective, it is extremely hard to chase and attack moving targets because of how long it takes to surface(which is probably the dolphins most important role), maybe shorten the amount of time it takes to surface

Always Ready, Always There is useless in some maps where there are no garrisonable buildings. Maybe it should work on tech structures, the barracks, or the bolt hole?

The Razor submarines secondary is just w00t awesomely awesome, it fire those drill missiles with the speed of a dreadnaught useing it's special ability.

for the dog fighting system maby if the fighters fired quicker theyed do more applicable dammage per run.

The Proton Turret has a large miss rate, I've shot at moving Kirov's and missed (slow bullet effect).

Edited by: norm0616

Clockstop can be very abusive on ore collectors (though it is very fun crippling your enemies economy).

Also, the new range for all the units messes up the attacking of naval vessels from land and land units from water, especially when no units can retaliate, making it harder for a sneak attack.

Edited by: g.a

(Darn you, g.a., you just told everyone my secret tactic!)

The spy from the Double Agent protocol can immediately bribe upon changing. I managed to bribe an entire army of my (AI) enemy and turn it right back!