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A tale of gamebreaking bugs and communication missteps.

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Greetings, companions of Edain!


Many of you have been wondering why we haven't posted any new updates in recent months. Today, we wanted to give you an explanation. The truth is: Last christmas, we thought we'd have version 4.5 released by now. But then, we ran into two utterly gamebreaking bugs. One made the game crash whenever you opened the Custom Heroes menu, the other made it impossible to load saved games.

These are issues that have plagued Edain before in the past. However, what fixed them then did not work this time. It is not 100% clear what actually causes them apart from the fact that it's somehow connected to Edain growing larger and more complex than the base game.

This meant two things: We could not release the version with these issues. We feel that after all this time, delivering a version with such glaring flaws would not be what you deserve. However, we also couldn't keep working on finishing the remaining content while we try to fix the bugs because there was always the possibility that we can't find the exact cause and have to completely revert to a previous beta.

This is ultimately what we ended up doing. We now have eliminated both bugs, but it forced us to walk back some progress we had already completed. Right now, we are working on re-implementing these lost features and compiling what is left to do for the final version.

We realize this is frustrating to you, and believe us, it's even more frustrating for us. However, it is simply part of modding life: You are working with an engine you did not create and will never 100 percent understand, so something like this can always crop up.

What have we learned from this? One, we will test for these bugs more frequently between changes so when they do crop up and we once again have to revert to a previous version, we can do it quicker and there's less content lost.

Two, we'll be altering our communication policy going forward. Until now, we've only posted updates when we have something big and final to show you. The advantage of this is that we never promise anything that won't be in the final version. The disadvantage, however, is that it can leave the community feeling lost when there's no update in a while. This can happen due to bugs that prevent new features from being finalized, but also more simply when we're all busy working on different new additions that all take a longer time to finish. Going forward, we'll therefore regularly post work-in-progress updates in the "Impressions From the Journey" over at the Modding Union. These will not always present new content and will not replace the larger updates, but they will give you a glimpse into what we're up to.

We hope this clears up any confusion about the current state of the mod and are looking forward to getting back to work!

Your Edain Team

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Thrax999
Thrax999 - - 300 comments

Thank you for at least being transparent about these sort of things. I have seen other mods simply not communicate their issues to their followers and simply fall away and leave all parties involved disappointed. We will continue to support you all as you try to provide a quality experience with this beloved game, as old as it is starting to become.

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GrandSerpent
GrandSerpent - - 537 comments

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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killerdood
killerdood - - 4 comments

thanks for the honesty.
and i think we can all wait a little bit if it makes evrything work.
ps you guys are fantastic

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titan60
titan60 - - 7 comments

Thank you very much for the open communication, and the honesty. Completely agree with what was told that we can wait as long as necessary to get something great.

Great modding team, and good luck with your work.

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MrTodd
MrTodd - - 392 comments

Thank you to inform us, we understand, take your time Edain Team, I am sure the nex update will be awesome.

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Trondheim9
Trondheim9 - - 12 comments

Thank you for your dedication and hard work!

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deathbirdw
deathbirdw - - 101 comments

Love the mod, keep up the good work!

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Stahlrim
Stahlrim - - 24 comments

Oh no! That's sad to hear. I'm sure that it was demoralizing to get set back like that. But at least you guys are catching this bug early enough to fix it before it goes public! Thank you all so much for your time and hard work in this amazing project! Good luck, as work continues.

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Kark-Jocke
Kark-Jocke - - 14,687 comments

Like I said many times before. Use all the time you need Edain team, you guys are doing amazing work here. The best part about your team is that you never give up even when things do not work properly right away and you do whatever you can to fix it.

The modding world is pretty hard and not everyone understands that right away, but keep in mind that most of us understand how frustrated it can be. Keep up the amazing work, looking forward to the next update.

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haza_jacko
haza_jacko - - 79 comments

This is understandable! I mod EAW FOC a lot and get these game breaking bugs that you just cant figure out where its gone wrong so have to roll back. I read through all the changes you posted on the forum and I am really looking forward to 4.5 especially with regards to castle defence! For now we wait patiently and hope to hear more soon!

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H4lbarad
H4lbarad - - 191 comments

I can only support you after so many years. 💙

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marvincito
marvincito - - 10 comments

despues de haber esperado tanto lo unico que puedo decir es que les felicito por el excelente trabajo que hacen, !sigan adelate!

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ApornasPlanet
ApornasPlanet - - 4,117 comments

Cheers!

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Frisk
Frisk - - 53 comments

Cool!

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yunleefung
yunleefung - - 1 comments

We fully understand. take your time and relax, you guys have already made an incredible mod.

thank you for all your hard work

from holland with love

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Aranruth
Aranruth - - 12 comments

You guys are amazing. Bummer to hear about the bugs; I can't even imagine how disheartening and frustrating that must be for the Edwin team. We are proud of you all and I am looking forward to this shift towards more transparency. Hopefully that will shut up the impatient haters :)

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Moby91
Moby91 - - 90 comments

I'll always follow your path!

Btw: Cheers from Australia out of a small campervan...so many deadly creatures surrounding me but never would I give up on you guys!!! xD

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mik1147
mik1147 - - 4 comments

Hi i have a question i normally play rotwk with cd emu and mounting the smoking man iso to play without a disc but i keep getting errors for cd when i try play pls help?

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Befored
Befored - - 17 comments

Download the latest game.dat from Revora forums and put it in your RotWK folder.

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