Yeah, I had enemies build less than 20 caps total in that same round, and out of nowhere I saw the goonswarm AI fleet with 40 nyxes and 6 erebuses, all on vicious difficulty random personality. So probably certain AI types(aggressive/defensive etc.) make different fleets, like caps or subcap focused.
Was a hell of a fun fight though :D
Made a new video about a week ago, figured I should post it here too :D Still loving this mod!
@Soluella
As far as I am aware you there is no way around the can rep/can't rep issue without making the dread/carrier completely invulnerable. But maybe there is a modifier that I don't know about.
Arbitrators take a lot of supply because in previous versions the AI had fleets of 150+ arbitrators, which was ridiculous. Scaling costs/supply is the easiest way to make AI build a better fleet.
Ship build times being long actually means that in the beginning ships matter. No losing your entire fleet and having an exact copy 1 minute later. Unless you're talking about drones, in which case you can build a rorqual which has an ability to instantly replenish drones to all your ships in range every 60 seconds.
Cyno jammer allows for battles against an enemy with a larger capital force and still come out victorious. Scouting ahead and having a good subcap fleet to destroy the jammer before your caps jump in would resolve any problems you might have with it.
All drone ships have lower armor than their turret-based brethren. Although in some cases it may not be balanced completely, it's not just "lol domi doesn't get armor".
No matter if there is 1 or 1000 pirate bases, 1 pirate raid is 1 pirate raid, same size, only what direction they'll come from will differ. And Sansha was the plan in the past.
The 2 second freezes on my side are always GPU based, CPU is not a problem. Instead, Sins seems to slow itself down if your CPU can't handle it(similar to TiDi) up till a certain point. Though depending on your PC it may not be enough.
The slow downs are also definitely possible to be limited by the modders, by changing how certain things work.(Like amount of refinery ships, amount of drones, capital/ship supply, auto-docking drones etc.)
Ship weapon ranges are probably still being played around with, but I agree that they are not properly balanced currently. grid-wide blaster moros is slightly OP for one.
I haven't played the mod in 2 months because I've returned to real EVE so I'm not sure about the exact balance currently. but I have 500 hours into the mod in total through all the different versions and tweaked it a lot myself so I have some understanding.
@Soluella, as a long time sins player/tweaker(Not modder, I just tweak others' mods :P), I can give you some feedback on your feedback :D Not part of the mod team.
Damage values displayed on the ship charts are indeed DPS, not volley.
Way in the past I had a mini-mod for this mod, it had all the real EVE values at the time. Youtu.be
Battles were horribly long and anything non-capital was a joke. And that was back when remote armor reps weren't even in existence yet I believe.
Adding real values now would just be insanity xD large aeon/nyx fleets would literally become invulnerable to anything but titan DDs being used at the same time on a single target.
Logistics is strong early game, but balance wise EVE is the same, 5 logi per side in 10 man fleets, nothing would die. But a problem with making logi weaker is that the AI is absolutely horrendous at targeting. Ship with 99% health missing doesn't get repped because another ship missing 1% health is closer. And I don't believe there is a fix for that targeting.(At best making the rep a weaker AoE instead and limiting the amount of times the ability can stack, or making the effect a heal/s instead of a flat amount to perhaps also help fix the targeting issue?)
Same thing happens with the cap transfer, when I tweaked it to be so that reps cost quite a bit of cap I had logis running out of cap, while others were kept at 100% cap. The targeting just doesn't work properly. And with most of my battles lasting quite a while, logis would become useless if they couldn't keep repping.(They already have a limited impact in mid-late game as stuff just gets volleyed)
The shields on amarr/gallente ships are a joke as they got 0 resists and should only be considered as a buffer to try and make logis' targetting slightly less horrendous.
Armor values should be changed a bit here and there I agree, but overall it's not too bad. Lower armor values would mean that late game they'd get volleyed even easier, and making armor research too important could make the AI too powerful perhaps, but never tested that. Wouldn't mind seeing an Armor buff though on some ships.
I'm not sure if you are asking for a triage/siege self-rep buff or nerf or a BS buff... In any case, bringing 5-10 battleships with neuts should help a lot when fighting enemy dreads(Horrendous AI neut targeting aside)
AI using caps can definitely be adjusted. The AI has (hidden) abilities where it spawns SC/carrier/dreads, making those abilities have a shorter cooldown makes it so that the AI builds more of them.(As they don't really use multiple build platforms like normal players do)
The AI usage of certain ships is directly related to their cost/build time/slot count etc., to make the AI use more logi they would need to become either cheaper or everything else would have to become more expensive basically.
Supercarriers have their use as they are very tanky but still shell out a bunch of DPS. But currently they might be a bit too weak(Haven't played current mod version that much yet, so not sure)
Thanks for the feedback btw, it's interesting to see others' perspective on things as I have a few too many hours into this mod to be objective ^.^
Just a small(ish) battle featuring the death of a bunch of titans and other capitals.
I was playing together with another person vs an Unfair AI. It was at the end of the round as we were taking enemy planets at a rapid pace.
Which files exactly? The tweaked broken ones? xD
Currently doing my 2nd pass so if you want the tweaked files I can upload em in a few hours once I'm happy with the changes.
Btw, would anyone be interested in multiplayer? 400 hours of solo play tends to get bland, so if anyone wants to team up against the AI I'm all for it.
Just hit me up on steam:
Steamcommunity.com
It was actually one of the changes I made as well in my tweaks for the capitals, probably halved or more the build times of the capitals with subcaps coming in my 2nd pass. Thanks for reminding me xD Although it's true that it's a 4x game, the previous version was quite a bit faster at it. Although now early game is more fun rather than just spam(especially on ai side) it can feel rather slow.
Was trying to tweak some things around again as I usually do, and noticed all the files aren't in their usual easy-to-edit form, and was wondering how I could unlock them.
I tried using the rebellion converter, and although I could edit most of the files afterwards(Some planets/suns wouldn't convert), reversing the process only ended in me breaking the game on start-up cause it could no longer read the files.
Really wondering how you did that xD
If you're interested:
I tweaked the EHP amount of the Nyx to be lower than the Aeon, while having more powerful drones.
Reduced drones on (super)carriers to 10, nearly doubling fighterbomber stats.
Buffed all drones EHP so they don't all get volleyed off the field by a destroyer/smartbomb in the first 10 seconds of combat
Reduced respawn times for all drones
Reduced range on Short Range Moros/Revelation(Short Range shouldn't be capable of shooting across the entire gravity well I'd think)
Reduced Long Range dreads EHP, while buffing their DPS
Buffed triage/dread cap recharge just a little
Added 2nd triage rep for triage carriers that can only rep titan/capital/starbase while removing their launch bay, so they rep more and rep capitals more consistently
Fixed research costs on Gallente resource extraction
Gave thanatos/nyx/aeon remote capacitor transfers that only work on other capitals/titans instead of remote shield/armor hardeners(I think)
Made it so that all capitals have all abilities maxed out at lvl 10(Reducing max levels while buffing the abilities so there is no loss in ability strength)
Changed ship level progression speed and buying costs.
Changed flagship abilities to increase survivability and early game (combat) usefulness.(Added MWD/point/web instead of cyno/tracking computer/hardener)
Upped doomsday capacitor cost while reducing its cooldown
I think that was all I changed on my first pass, if I can get it converted back somehow and still have it working my 2nd pass will likely include titan tweaks.
The titan foundry has an ability(autocast enabled by default) that costs 37.5k credits, 17.5k metal and 12.5k crystal if memory serves, if it gets activated a titan gets spawned in the gravity well of the titan foundry. This way you can make as many titans as you want as long as you have capital/ship supply.
The cooldown is rather long(1000 seconds I believe) but building multiple titan foundries allows you to circumvent it a bit by having multiple cooldowns going at the same time.
3 and a half hour game, no crashes still. Did get an amazing battle though where some 30 titans were on the field at once as well as some 80 other capitals and a few hundred subcaps. It got rather crowded at the asteroid xD (It also got really laggy with 2FPS for a very long time >.<)
The early on capacitor problems might just be solvable by actually using the rorqual for more than colonizing xD
The research tree also has some weird costs, like the resource harvesting speed upgrade goes from 1st upgrade really cheap > really expensive, and the 2nd upgrade is suddenly really cheap again and ends more expensive, doesn't really make sense. A slower more stable build-up of upgrade costs would make more sense.
I also noticed that buying ship levels can get really expensive(100k+ for a single ship from 1-10) and since there are 99 cap ships slots, it feels a bit too expensive.
Playing first round, Large single, Gallente(Me)+Amarr vs same vs same. Other slots all AI Unfair Random Personality.
I will only list issues for now(I love the mod, as I always have, just things I noticed that I'd like to know your opinion on), some or most of which may not apply for long to me(as I'll likely be heavily tweaking again) but things I noticed anyway.
Some of the issues will just require some getting used to or changing away from my usual tactics from the previous (heavily tweaked) version.
Also: @Haiyooo, the AI went medieval on my hiney too :P Gave up once my entire fleet got killed at an enemy planet(See ECM battery issues) and a 3rd enemy joined in with a massive fleet(including 3 titans) that broke through my (super)carrier reps.(My capitals were holding and slowly winning against the planet+his fleet, but the 3rd enemy was too much to tank and having a large enemy fleet at one of my own planets meant I didn't see me winning that round anymore)
Issues/annoyances:
Typo:
Description of the strikecraft auto-(un)dock ability: "They will they(n) automatically return to..."
Drones being recalled mid-battle thus forgetting your orders due to the new auto-(un)dock ability.
Triage carriers being useless at lvl 1, no rep, no remote cap, yet it constantly triages, running out of capacitor before reaching lvl 2.
ECM batteries being OP as hell, fighting on an AI planet, he build like 12 ECM batteries, felt like my entire mid-game fleet was jammed by them(Probably close to half was actually jammed however). The turrets are useless in comparison to jamming an entire fleet.
Triage carriers and dreads were nearly unkillable early game, 500hp/s is unbreakable unless you bring a ton of neuts, and even then 1 cap transfer from a carrier and it's doing it again.
On the other hand, being Gallente and having no cap transfer early on(see triage level issues) my dreads ran out of cap at the enemy planet and never were able to go back into siege because of a lack of regen.
Execurors don't seem to rep at all during battle, preferring to deal damage.
I saw a Nyx of mine(Or well... 7 of em at once) get webbed to 2100%, this basically meant it was standing still. Intended?
The Vexor doesn't seem quite useful in comparison to the Dominix, the Dominix has more health, neuts, has more drones, meaning the Vexor is just either a resource waste or at best a short lasting useful ship.(I'm sure there are more ships with this issue, but it was the most obvious one I noticed)
The drone bonus on some ships isn't quite useful, 100% weapon cooldown but they still aren't capable of doing more than 1 attack per run.(Not extensively tested, but it was the same in the previous version)
And 2 questions:
Did ships get a lot slower or does it just feel that way? It felt like it took forever for my rorqual to get to the next planet to colonize.(Faster ship speed in round-options enabled)
I also couldn't help but feel that it took very long to build ships in comparison, although that meant the battles were smaller and less lag overall, it felt strange. Did build times get upped a lot?
That is all for today(If you care, I can keep doing such posts as I play rounds and notice things over the coming week, or if you don't care about my personal opinion just tell me to stfu in a PM or reply :P)
Note that despite all the things listed, I did enjoy the round I played and love how the gallente looks :D Will definitely be playing more tomorrow hoping to get pirate strength maxed out next time ^.^
Also: No crashes to report so far, perhaps some people aren't playing on medium graphics? I know that was an issue for me in the past in mid-late game.
Just watched it, would have live viewed but didn't know in time xD
Was fun seeing you choose red NC. as I always take my ally as that when I play, and PL yellow myself.
The gallente looks great though! Makes me look forward to the next update even more ^.^ AI went a bit medieval on your hiney though. Especially since that was maybe a half of his fleet fighting you and you already got overwhelmed xD
Too bad the MP didn't seem to really work though, would have been interesting to see
3 hours later, I've managed to get music into the game, and have the game only play that music.
When the exact music triggers however I've yet to understand, the battle music doesn't always trigger and sometimes it changes while it's in the middle of the music.
Not sure if I can even fix those issues however as those were also present in base sins as well as the current mod version. But at least I got new music in and working.
On another note: I just got facewrecked by normal AI. I may have made the AI too powerful xD(Although I wasn't playing normally and could have likely taken him on otherwise, his fleet was nothing short of amazingly huge(11 archons, 3 triage archons, avatar, 16 short range revelations, felt like I destroyed 1 capital and he warped in 2 more, didn't have the economy to counter him))
Having not gamed in like 2 weeks(RL as well), I want to do some modding again(the itch to mod has been growing again haha) I'll give music a try. Will have to learn how it works etc. though so it might take a few hours to get it working and tested if I can get it working at all.
I'll be back!
For anyone who missed it:
Work does continue but sadly it has had to be sidelined significantly due to serious RL issues which I have to focus time on.
I do occasionally get time to work on it and test features out.
But for now what I'm going through has to get priority.
It's possible to release now but it will be an incomplete build.
Posted on the 28th of August but is on 2nd comment page because Moddb sillyness.
I wish you the best in whatever your RL situation may be Lord_Drokoth. RL can definitely be a bitch.
I'll leave the decision to you what is the best in terms of when to release, as I have no idea how much content is added or unfinished. Though as stated in the comments, there are quite a few people(including myself) willing to help where we can.
Actually, thanks to a reply I was going to do @Ryanrules247...
@Lord_Drokoth, is there anything I can do to help for the next update? I don't know what kind of changes are still required for the next update, but I have tweaked v0.06 a lot and mayhaps I can help get you to it sooner by taking some of the easier but still needing-to-be-done workload off of your shoulders.(New ships/Completely new abilities are outside of my knowledge, but changing any existing file in the GameInfo folder has so far been within my ability, as well as mapfiles and adding a 2nd rep to the Augoror(Exactly the same as the 2nd triage rep except for the name))
Last I read from the modder, work has not stopped but has slowed down due to real life.
@Guest, I quickly checked whether or not I could make the titan bridge affect others in the gravity well and make them jump from farther from the edge, and although it is most likely possible given enough time and tries, it is not a simple thing like I hoped it would be. So I am not gonna do it as my real life is quite packed currently.
I quickly added the entity modifier for gravity tolerance to the jump bridge ability, however that only ended up with the planet itself getting that buff, and not the ships in the gravity well. This means that I expect I would need to make an extra file that makes the ability target both the planet and the ships, and give each different buffs. Or it might be simpler than that, but it was a real quick test now that I had a little bit of time.
On the bright side: I fixed a few non-important errors in files(map files, I removed wormholes from the maps I play on) in my own tweaked mod that I didn't know about as I had never started my own tweaked mod in Dev mode before xD
@Guest, this comment system is quite horrible so I'm starting anew to make reading what you say easy.
It's true that the aeon is expensive, but don't forget that you can make a lot of Aeons and only 1 Avatar at such a low price. Multiple Avatars at the same time is gonna require a lot of credits/resources.
However, changing the resource values yourself is also easy as the ability change is.
Again in the mod's GameInfo folder, search for Amarr_Ship_Supercarrier_Aeon.entity and open it, scroll down to
basePrice
credits 20000.000000
metal 5000.000000
crystal 4500.000000
(And then I'd suggest searching for Gallente_Ship_Supercarrier_Nyx and make the Nyx cheaper as well to keep it fair)
and change it to whatever you want. Almost everything about abilities and ships can be changed in the GameInfo folder, just have to search for the appropriate .entity file and the line of text that changes what you want. Luckily it's quite easy for these kind of tweaks.
Don't ask about adding completely new ships or abilities as that goes beyond my ability xD Changing what abilities a ship has, or changing all capital that you can build into Aeons/Nyxes I can still do though.
The one that still crashed was "The blue giant of Talthus", What I saw on my screen when it crashed was my Beliskner class ship(5 weapons/5 armor upgrades) getting destroyed by the asteroid field, having only the shield generator hardpoint alive after passing through it, I wanted to sent it back into the field to have it destroyed because it was useless to me, however the ship was unresponsive to the move command and the game crashed a second later.
What I saw on my screen might have been completely irrelevant however xD
Glad to hear you got it working! Making the Jump Bridge longer is trivial(like, 2 seconds of work)
Go into C:\Users\*name*\Documents\My Games\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion\Mods-Rebellion v1.82\SINS OF NEW EDEN\GameInfo and search for the file
"BuffTitanJumpBridgeSpawnerCaster.entity" and open it with notepad++/wordpad/microsoft word/ etc. and scroll down to the lines
finishCondition
finishConditionType "TimeElapsed"
time
Level:0 30.000000
Level:1 30.000000
Level:2 0.000000
Level:3 0.000000
Change the 30 to 50 to make it last 50 seconds, or any amount of time you want.(Ability cooldown is 60 seconds, so I'd really recommend not going over that)
Jumping directly from the titan(like the wormholes in sins or actual titan bridging in EVE) is impossible,
but making them able to jump farther from the gravity edge is possible(not sure if I can reduce it to from anywhere of the gravity well while the jump beacon is active, but I can try)
Though that will take me at least 24 hours and possibly a bit longer to get working as sins is currently not a priority for me.(Maybe after the next update haha)
That's strange, is the Sins of New Eden mod the only mod enabled at that time? I'm guessing yes but can't hurt to ask.
Besides that, the only thing I can think of is redownloading the mod, unpacking it, and making sure it is in the correct place.
Just to make 100% certain, you did install Sins of New Eden v0.06 and then installed the hotfix over v0.06 correct?(Placing the files of the hotfix in the New Eden Mod folder overwriting the older files)
Played 2 rounds vs Goa'uld as Tau'ri, 1 crash, 1 went fine. Both played without the squadron upgrade. Not using that upgrade helps for sure, but doesn't seem to be a complete workaround. Or the crash was for another reason.
Awesome, thanks for the response! Will try it out and see if that indeed fixes the issue and will respond back in a few hours.
Did you not see the mod at all in the Option > Mod menu? If not, then I think there might be a problem with the way you installed the mod. And you forcing it to start the mod through the EnabledMods.txt just causes it to try and load a faulty mod installation which would indeed then crash.
Please make certain that the path to the GameInfo folder inside the mod is similar to:
C:\Users\*name*\Documents\My Games\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion\Mods-Rebellion v1.82\SINS OF NEW EDEN\GameInfo
If you can't start the game at all currently, a way to fix it is going into(assuming steam)
(Although disabling the mod in the EnabledMods.txt file also works)
\Steam\SteamApps\common\Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion and then activate the Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion Dev.exe , this causes the game to start up in windowed mode with default settings, restarting the normal game after that also places it in default settings. This would at least make the client responsive again.
Let me help you with that. Will be asking some general questions to try and identify the possible causes.
What version of rebellion are you running, with or without DLCs? Did the game work before you installed the mod? Did you get to activate the mod in the option menu?
Have you tried re-installing the game and/or re-downloading the mod, making sure your anti-virus is not blocking anything?(Some anti-viruses are more like viruses themselves and see everything as false positive)
Note:
I am just a lover of this mod, not the mod developer. Though I am sure I can at least try to troubleshoot it for you.
Mod keeps crashing mid-battle, Me as Tau'ri vs Goa'uld. Tau'ri vs Wraith also had the problem. Wraith vs Goa'uld went without any trouble what so ever.(aside from noticing the Wraith Hive Ship's warp signature is slightly off center)
Wraith vs Goa'uld was definitely fun though, loved this mod some few years ago, still do now :D
The error log tells me:
Exception in thread 858 - Main Thread
Exception code EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
Attempt to read from address 000007E0
Exception occurred at 007C3EDF - Unknown code pointer
Stack walk:
00628DA0 : Unknown
Register dump:
Eip:007C3EDF Esp:0018F978 Ebp:0000A411
Eax:23599201 Ebx:00000001 Ecx:246E6D08
Edx:00000004 Esi:00000000 Edi:246E6B10
EFlags:00010213
CS:0023 SS:002b DS:002b ES:002b FS:0053 GS:002b
Bytes at CS:EIP (007C3EDF): 83 BE E0 07 00 00 00 53 7E 21 8D 4C 24 10 51 8B 4C 24 20 8D 54 24 28 52 57 56 E8 E2 EE FF FF 5F 5E 5B 81 C4 D4 00 00 00 C2 0C 00 8D 44 24 10 50 8D 4C 24 28 51 8B 4C 24 24 57 56 E8 A1 F2 FF FF
Gallente has some capital ships in the current build. Moros Long and Short range versions, Nyx and the thanatos(if memory serves), I'm pretty sure the next build will have some more things.(Though as I am not one of the modders, I have 0 idea when it will come)
Asked on the official Sins forums, as there are some really experienced modders on there. This was his response regarding the ability to do the thingies I'd like:
Assuming you mean instantly appear at your target, no. You can however mod the speed of how fast you travel via phase gates, so you could make the tech that unlocks the phase gate give 1000000% bonus to jump speed and that would be a bit closer.
It will still have to be a jump though, there is no way around having to go to the edge of the gravity and go through the phase jump animation. There is no way to duplicate the way the Wormhole planets work by other means.
So yeah, sadly it is not possible in the way I'd like :( But the mod is tons of fun anyway, just wish I could play with others to create some truly OP fleets xD(Not that my fleets are lacking or anything with 98 nyxes and an avatar xD or an even more OP Amarr fleet)
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