Atheists, Agnostics, and Anti-theists of ModDB
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1. God does not adhere to any of our laws of science. There is no before after or present for God because those our only measurements that we use to distinguish the passage of time.
2. He gave us free will and he accepts our decisions whether He likes it or not.
You really should study the works of St. Thomas Aquinas. This contains many common flaws to anti-Christian rhetoric.
1. That is the same thing as omnipotence, just explained differently. If you are suggesting the universe is like a video he can just play back and forth and edit any way he likes then why not perfect humanity? Why not destroy evil? Why not stop false religions from coming into existence?
2. Why would he give creatures he so strictly and closely judges free will in such an untamed environment? That sounds like a leader who has no control over his people so he just simply threatens to behead anyone who disobeys his will.
He is going to do those things when He so chooses and certain criteria are met by us.
So by what you believe your deity purposely made us so that we are flawed to watch us squirm and suffer until we meet certain standards that your deity desires us to poses?
That makes absolutely no logical sense at all.
Give me a logical reason for your deity to simply not make us what it envisions as perfect to prevent billions of people from suffering the miserable lives they currently live have lived in the past, and will live in the future.
The only reason I see is that your deity is sadistic which is obviously an imperfection and would make it not a "loving" deity at all. If anything almost the exact opposite.
suffering is our human minds illusion. he did not put us here to suffer, but to experience and expand, all that is, from our unique point of perspective. we are given the free will to suffer or not, either way all that is expands from our newly born desires and platforms of perspective
God is beyond time so there wouldn't be any playing of a videotape. He is Omnipresent he is the same know as at the creation of the universe and any other point in time. He does not change so there is no difference in time. Time is only the measure of frames that represent the universe in different stages. As I have said before you should read what St. Thomas Aquinas has written on this subject.
He isn't powerless to stop us or change us as you suggest. He willingly gives us free will. Only if he was powerless could your suggestion be correct.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~Epicurus
@Akalonor
Is he both able and willing? Yes but if God prevented every bad thing in this world, how would we learn from our own mistakes and grow? Your parents let go of your hand, likewise, God has let go of our hand. Evil comes from humans who follow their own selfish desires and refuse to listen to rules and obey them.
I don't believe any supposed deity decided to make us so we can make mistakes. Even if God was omnipotent, does that mean he wouldn't try for the best. I know I am going to die someday, does that mean I should just commit suicide and stop living? Just a thought that even when we as people know the outcome of something is going to be unpleasant we still try to make what we consider the best decision. Lots of things suck in this world, but there are times when everyone feels good about something.
Another idea for everyone to think over is this: say you have a favorite color, do you just want everything to be that color? I personally like blue, but I don't want everything to be blue. There would be no depth perception, or even real sight everything would just be a plain blue. If everything was good all the time, than we wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Perhaps people being imperfect is so we can tell what is good and what is not by finding it out ourselves instead of someone just telling us.
so the Big Bang theory is true is what a religion is telling? u tell me our god is time? every time and time and time and time.. time make the space, with time earth was made, with time human was made, with time u baby was birth, with time u have a job, with time u be cure or die from any sickness, with time u read and thinking to write something about what i wrote here..