see we think your beliefs are myths- yes they may have some good in them but to us they are still fairy tales
so it actually does have logic & fact
Logic- its bull because its archaic and imaginary and we do not seem them as good things to live by.
fact- the stories inside are myth
now even with these facts we can still get along, i have both muslim and christain friends. I just don't believe that there religions are anything more than ancient fairytales. As long as they don't try and force there myths down my throat i don't try and force my logic onto them- its simple and it works well.
Can you prove that there in no intelligence that is controls the events of the universe? Can you actually prove we are, along with everything wee not the result of that intelligence own experiments? Can you prove that there in no intelligence that created the laws of physics and everything else in order to put together what we call "the universe"? Can you tell me where is the end of it and what is after it? You cannot. We know too little for too say there is no God/Allah/intelligence the didn't created the universe and us for his own purpose/entertainment? I'm not trying to force there belief (I would prefer if you use that word though instead of myths) down your throat I'm just pointing out you and I are on the even ground when it comes to proving there is or isn't a god.
We both have own way of looking at life and as humans, have the right to do so. That said, neither of us have sufficient evidence to prove other wrong. But bashing others idea just because you don't agree with it doesn't dose any good not it is the right thing to do. Atheists usually claims themselves as better people yet they do not act like that. If you guys are better people, why don't pay respect to other people freedom of choice? This question for all the member of this group not only to you.
You are using a double-edged logic, you may not be able to easily prove that God or a "superior intelligence" doesn't exist, but you can't also prove that the The Flying Spagetti Monster, or Russel's Teapot, or the Invisible Pink Unicorn don't exist, yet we both know, just using logic, that these don't exists, just because it's totally ridiculous, I apply the same argument on God, and that's one of the reasons why I don't believe in it/him/her.
We do respect your freedom of chioce and yes we are often better people, want an example of both- we don't go to the muslim or christain groups and tell them what to believe or what you can post, as you are trying to do to us now.
Do you want another example? Heres one- we don't murder or imprison people for different views- unlike what happens to atheists in muslim countries, where in most official discrimiation is the law but often atheists are to be imprisoned but most often killed- all because we don't believe your myths.
You are just going to have to live with the fact we are free here to say whatever we want
Nobody can disprove God, I believe that was the idea when we first came with him. As well as nobody can prove it.
Well, you sure noticed that understanding the world don't come with prayers. At least it didn't yet.
We can't really disprove almighty entity, but the word itself looses logic. On the other hand we can prove that God's description in Quoran or Bible is unlogical and contradicting. Humanity is now somewhere else than in times our holy books "appeared". They described different age, different way of life which you can't follow on 100% nowadays.
We can disprove those gods that have traits to indicate them. Lets take the christian god Yahweh once again:
- He made the world/universe about 6000 - 10000 years ago
- he made all live fully formed
- he flooded the earth
Just 3 of the most remarkable traits and all are wrong. So in fact the christian god turn out to not exist. I dont know the traits of Allah, but if he has some we can falsify wether he has the possibility to exist or doesnt exist at all. But for any "superior" creature, we cant tell for sure unless it reveals itself to us - I say "it" on purpose, because it can be male, female or neutral gendered (or transgendered... lol).
Allah and God are the same if i'm not mistaken. Jesus is a prophet in Islam, it's just that Muhammad was the last prophet of God. Both religions are Abrahamic and based off the same things, so they are very similar in a lot of regards.
In terms of those things you listed, they're all taken from other older religions, which just goes to show how they're more like folklore and superstition than a godly or supreme act. However the creators of these 'holy' books thought it would be nice to include them and say their God did it i guess lol.
This is funny as Hell
So... is it just me, or isn't the islamic girl holding the book backwards?...
LOL!!! Yes, she does. xD
Arabic is written and read right to left lol
U guyz failed
They're trying to be PC i think
Oh right, I forgot they did that >-<
Damn...
This is why we can't get along.
Logic and fact: This image and none.
Its not that we dont get along, its that people come here expressing opposing views and we correct them.
see we think your beliefs are myths- yes they may have some good in them but to us they are still fairy tales
so it actually does have logic & fact
Logic- its bull because its archaic and imaginary and we do not seem them as good things to live by.
fact- the stories inside are myth
now even with these facts we can still get along, i have both muslim and christain friends. I just don't believe that there religions are anything more than ancient fairytales. As long as they don't try and force there myths down my throat i don't try and force my logic onto them- its simple and it works well.
Look Deer with all due respect:
Can you prove that there in no intelligence that is controls the events of the universe? Can you actually prove we are, along with everything wee not the result of that intelligence own experiments? Can you prove that there in no intelligence that created the laws of physics and everything else in order to put together what we call "the universe"? Can you tell me where is the end of it and what is after it? You cannot. We know too little for too say there is no God/Allah/intelligence the didn't created the universe and us for his own purpose/entertainment? I'm not trying to force there belief (I would prefer if you use that word though instead of myths) down your throat I'm just pointing out you and I are on the even ground when it comes to proving there is or isn't a god.
We both have own way of looking at life and as humans, have the right to do so. That said, neither of us have sufficient evidence to prove other wrong. But bashing others idea just because you don't agree with it doesn't dose any good not it is the right thing to do. Atheists usually claims themselves as better people yet they do not act like that. If you guys are better people, why don't pay respect to other people freedom of choice? This question for all the member of this group not only to you.
You are using a double-edged logic, you may not be able to easily prove that God or a "superior intelligence" doesn't exist, but you can't also prove that the The Flying Spagetti Monster, or Russel's Teapot, or the Invisible Pink Unicorn don't exist, yet we both know, just using logic, that these don't exists, just because it's totally ridiculous, I apply the same argument on God, and that's one of the reasons why I don't believe in it/him/her.
We do respect your freedom of chioce and yes we are often better people, want an example of both- we don't go to the muslim or christain groups and tell them what to believe or what you can post, as you are trying to do to us now.
Do you want another example? Heres one- we don't murder or imprison people for different views- unlike what happens to atheists in muslim countries, where in most official discrimiation is the law but often atheists are to be imprisoned but most often killed- all because we don't believe your myths.
You are just going to have to live with the fact we are free here to say whatever we want
Well there are atheist countries that imprison religious people: the former USSR and the PRC for example...
@Raptor
Nobody can disprove God, I believe that was the idea when we first came with him. As well as nobody can prove it.
Well, you sure noticed that understanding the world don't come with prayers. At least it didn't yet.
We can't really disprove almighty entity, but the word itself looses logic. On the other hand we can prove that God's description in Quoran or Bible is unlogical and contradicting. Humanity is now somewhere else than in times our holy books "appeared". They described different age, different way of life which you can't follow on 100% nowadays.
We can disprove those gods that have traits to indicate them. Lets take the christian god Yahweh once again:
- He made the world/universe about 6000 - 10000 years ago
- he made all live fully formed
- he flooded the earth
Just 3 of the most remarkable traits and all are wrong. So in fact the christian god turn out to not exist. I dont know the traits of Allah, but if he has some we can falsify wether he has the possibility to exist or doesnt exist at all. But for any "superior" creature, we cant tell for sure unless it reveals itself to us - I say "it" on purpose, because it can be male, female or neutral gendered (or transgendered... lol).
Allah and God are the same if i'm not mistaken. Jesus is a prophet in Islam, it's just that Muhammad was the last prophet of God. Both religions are Abrahamic and based off the same things, so they are very similar in a lot of regards.
In terms of those things you listed, they're all taken from other older religions, which just goes to show how they're more like folklore and superstition than a godly or supreme act. However the creators of these 'holy' books thought it would be nice to include them and say their God did it i guess lol.