World in War: Vietnam is an ambitious mod project that brings the Vietnam War to Men of War. You will follow the stories of 6 American infantrymen, from State-side bootcamp to the horrors of jungle warfare during the Tet Offensive.
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WW1 Mod, World in War: Vietnam and World in War: Winter Strike stand as one to support Vora_bat and his Modern Pack mod.
It had came to our attention that certain other "modteams" ( Moddb.com )have a bone to pick with Vora_bat and his mods. And, due to their behind-the-scenes scheming and plotting, a talented modder and a valuable asset to the community suffers.
We stand as one to say NO to that! Support Vora_bat, for the good of the community!
~World in War team.
Respect !
Touching :')
I support Vora_bat! As a side note, where did you get the WWI-ish guy? Sorry if it's not, it looks surprisingly accurate. xD And the animations for the two soldiers on the left?
It is from WW1 mod - read the description. Rear soldier represents our Winter Strike project. We all support Vora_bat. :)
as for the animations, they are not a problem to make on the renders - especially for our skilled artist, Nebel :)
Ahhh!!!! Nice one Nebel! Oh, and I wave back to the WWI mod!
WW1 soldier is asutro-hungarian soldier from our WW1 mod. We support vora as well.
I support him too
like.
Support Vora aswell, even sent him some of my models for his modern pack, but the hmmwv was definately stolen, just can't deny that.
It wasn't
Where's your proof? Countless number of people checked it out, at first I defended Vora, but the pictures speak for themselfs... NZH himself made a moddb account just because of this and even Arma developers checked out the model, which clearly had left over parts from their Hummwees and the model even took apart the same exact way. It's stupid and blind to say it wasn't.
I'm happy someone can admit it.
Vora Bat is one hell of a cynical liar, it's kinda nice You guys support someone, but I don't think supporting stealing someones work and calling it his own is worth supporting...
I'd like to play modern warfare'ish MoW too, but not when some arrogant ******* steals someone work and don't even put credit, just keep saying "it's just that im talented".
I did few mod-compilations and modifications in the past, but I never claimed the stuff in them was entirely my work if it wasn't, gosh.
I'm happy not everyone is blind and "I just want teh modern mow".
Before I get bad karma, I'll just say:
I support the mod as far as it uses legitimate models and have proper credits all over it, and there's no ugly lying.
Since he is a "cynical liar" and an "arrogant *******" as you say, then why in hell did you download his mod(s)!? You had fun with his mods and you have the arrogance to say that to the person whose mod(s) gave you lots of fun and enjoyment and that his mod might probably have been a basis for your own personal modifications?
All of you who accuse him, you had fun when you downloaded his mods and say all this crap about him? If anyone of you HAVEN'T STOLEN or RIPPED a resource from a game or even MODIFIED it for your own personal use in your entire life, come out now and stand by your accusation of Vora whatever you are accusing him of.
Well guess what genius, no we didn't. Your argument is simply childish and invalid.
Like I said. I did some compilations in the past, yet I never claimed it's my work, that "maybe I have talent" (to copy things?). Ripping stuff, even without knowledge or ackowledgement of the author is one bad thing, it's even not that big deal when You don't release your mod to the public...
But claiming someone others work as your own, LYING even when proofs were given and judged by two different teams (BIS and Moddb), is unforgiveable, it's just lousy.
The good guy would say "I did it, yes, sorry. Will You let me use the model if I give the right credit?" or something, Vora lied even more.
Most of the arma community have rules, and most of Vora fanboys just want a modern mow, nevermind the price... and is ready to defend him, even when such competent guys like ModDB team or even a ******* commercial company said the model is really stolen. How mature.
i guess my friend is a genius since his argument shows how foolish and arrogant your arguments are. such a hypocrite.
in fact vora posted bestway's reply when they compaired his model to nzx's. and confirmed that vora's model is a copy of the original model. what's your credential compaired to modellers from bestway? yeah, and now that the results are out, people reading your comments and rants see how pathetic you are.
reposted:
vora: I've been contacted by officials from BestWay, and provided them my model. Here what they've said. (google translation)
"I waited for the results of official examination, although yesterday i've anticipated the response.
First, give you the text of the Board of our modelers:
Both models are very similar in shape and arrangement of parts. Very striking specific items, such as a flag, an antenna tower with a machine gun, bumper and cable on the bonnet of cars, some small parts. All of them provide similar models.
The number of triangles (level of detail models) are different. If we compare the different design elements, we can see that the number of faces on different elements (such as wheels and at least have a similar shape vary in the number of faces of curvature), missing some minor details (such as deepening on the sides of the hood), the shape of parts is also different (eg for cable hood model humvee_arma made as two intersecting planes at right angles, and the model hummerempty as "cylinder" with a number of facets 3).
Both models have a different UV layout for the texture. And most likely the original texture, which could not appreciate.
From all the above listed can be said that the model 100% similarity are not. Appearance model humvee_arma obviously been taken by the author hummerempty as a basis, but was it made from scratch, or was taken and simplified model humvee_arma, hard to say.
P.s. Author of hummerempty should be morally punished for using other people's ideas (not work) and wish you further success and find original style inherent in each artist. (In general no longer so easy to get caught)
P.s.s. Humvee_arma author should not be so much worry, after all his work was taken over by the artist and beginners considered them as an example of worthy role models and honing skills."
vora: All i can say, is that i'm sorry for taking the idea and design of NZXSHADOWS' model.
He's even that arrogant to admit, that he'll upload the version with stolen HMMWV, just not here so he doesn't get banned. And that is ok in Your opinion, APART from the fact You want the mod?
Because yes, I want it too, unless it's all stolen ****, signed by Vora.
If he would sign the HMMWV "by NZXShadows" I think there wouldn't be that much of a problem... but hey, he lowered poly count, modified maybe 2 parts of the armour so it better fits MoW and hey, look, A NEW MODEL! by Vora ofc...
****, how lame is that.
Other modders work hard so they can give players something cool, he doesn't and he's getting praised like some king of modding. Is this ok in Your opinion?
vora didn't even made that statement. you're putting words in his mouth without evidence. which makes you a false accuser. did you ever work under him? did he "steal" your models? if not, what's your beef with him? why not go do something productive for the modding community of some other games out there. i'm sure i'll be glad to download your mod and tweak your models and convert them for my own use in mow. thanks for your contribution to my gaming happiness. i'll give you credit when i upload them kid. ha!
@aidas 2 - ask vora to upload his max files of the model he copied from nzx's to you and then ask the sam thing to nzx's and open both files in your PC. compare them in real-time and you'll see the evidence you're lookin' for.
Kid, cut this ****. The files were compared and many people who have much greater knowledge about modding and modelling stuff than You said it's the same ******* model.
Even Vora said he "used it as a template", so HE USED IT. IT'S NOT BY VORA, IT'S JUST MODIFIED BY HIM. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT HIS. GET IT?
i see you don't understand the difference between using the model and making it from screenshots. Pity you are.
I see we have the same profile picture. Problem?
do we?
We did, but I changed it to a unique one. DON'T STEAL!
so what, you're the author, or what?
...what?
Of course. The same You did with PoT MW2 or ArmA 2 models, right? :)
I understand someone may want something so badly he will take it without asking, but to to claim the rights to it, calling it his own?
That is low, lame, stupid and annoying.
yeah...you're such a self-righteous *** that you didn't copy any models did ya? you all made your models from scratch without copying it from something. such childish comments from you. what a weak argument. your arguments are copy-paste rants.
You can copy a model just looking at it. Period. But copying the barbed-wire in the hood in a way that it IS EXACTLY THE SAME??????
@aidas2 - how do you know this that arma developers check the model? were you there when you saw them "check" the model? pray tell us all who they are, their full names?
arma developers didn't checked the model, the admin of moddb did that.
he actually had credited his sources not stole them like the Shattered land smear campaign says
I think the smaller mods accused vora because they were either jealous of his progress and skill, or they were too foolish to tell the difference between his models. I wanted to thank you guys for doing this, it truly was touching.
^ me too
Add me to that list, I support all mods as long as they give credit where it is due.
Sturm
I will support Vora, but first where's the proof that he credited the authors?
Why no one shows me where he credited the authors?
I support him i want PoT to be back on Moddb he has done so much in support i have downloaded PoT Act 2 that i found today on his site and it is very well done the missions are made on a 1C level.
Noyhing more to say
Sturm is right, even though Vora might have taken a texture or model of another game, he shouldnt be blamed for anything if he creds the maker. Besides, Vora makes awesome models himself.
I followed some chat history of when vora and the f*g that blamed him and vora never said that models are his so he must have given credit
What happened?!? I am confused someone tell me!
Me and my friends here in the Philippines support Vora!
We support you Vora!
my mod support vora_bat for pot and modern pack
Thanx to all of you, who believes in me and in my work. I really appreciate it :)
I actually registered onto this account for the first time since I made it to say this:
1)Vora, me and my pals have all played your modern pack and we've all enjoyed it.
2)Ok, first off, its impossible to say he stole someone else's work regarding the armor/clothing considering its all based off of real life armor/clothing used now and therefore there is no contradiction over what it looks like, unlike with mods set in the pass since we we'rent there.
3)To you guys who made this picture, excellent wokr. Its nice to see modders banding together to help eachother.
I'm staying neutral in this vora since I wasnt here when this started up, but I wish you the best of luck in whatever is happening-
Ghost
i dont really understand whats going on cause im really tired,but i hear the guys a fair dude so he deserves a tip of the hat and a bro hug. Keep on keeping on.
the best way to end this and move on is if the masses stop flocking to mods with stolen content.
I forget who said it and where, but it was a good explanation, people want something, they dont care where it comes from. And individuals have nefarious ways of getting that content. And then they get popularity over it.
Men of War isnt ever going to come out of it's hole until people start getting off their ***** and making their own stuff.
Vora has been one of the biggest contributors to the current hellhole the community is in. I'm sorry but that's just the way it is, Price of terrorism was the biggest hit, and it was almost, if not completely stolen content from I don't know how many games
Vora Isn't innocent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-nStzpJa0M
yeeeeeaaaah, and the text that the content was in POT was taken from MW2 means nothing. I've always said that it is from MW2.
Doesn't make it legal. You can't just throw something down and give credit to someone, I've said this how many times now?
you'll learn eventually... I hope
still, you've trying to prove that i've used content from MW2 in POT. What for? Everyone knows that.
than why your team doesn't credit P90?
niiice, than that P90 really isn't your work (and that's really obvious, it's pretty easy to find it on one famous 3d models website, am i right?) :D
in other case i wouldn't get post's karma minused :D
p.s. ahh, and yeah, don't think about deleting pictures, i've made screenshots :)
Wtf? PoT mod? We were actually talking about Modern Pack mod which was hardly attacked by several people this month, not about PoT. By the way, we all knew that PoT had content from MW2 for a whole year! But no one came and said "lets delete this mod". This all started only after Modern Pack mod release. Interesting, isn't it ?
Really? Making a video? Does this affect your life that much?
i believe my mods cause him diarrhea, inflammation of the prostate, insomnia and penile dysfunction. That's why he's so angry :)
Would be a good explenation. One of many at least.
Kastrenzo.
Unlike your heavily censored modpage, we shall not delete this comment. Even though a warning had been issued by Nebel30, our community manager, on the previous page. What I'm about to do now, is face you once and for all. After this post, if you had a trace of decency left in you, you'd stop posting for a good while.
From all the people to be complaining on the Vora matter, it had to be the guy from the team who had made its start on STOLEN MODELS. Yes i said it, STOLEN MODELS. But, so what. It would be pointless to argue this fact furthermore - if you nimwits hadn't decided to go on a crusade against other mods after making 3-4 rifles "by yourselves". You, from all the people.
You are also well aware that most other mods use content from games. And thats acceptable. In your case, just before, it was acceptable aswell. Why? Those modders, by trial and error, hone and perfect their skills in modelling and texturing. One day, if they are resolved enough, they will make great assets to the modding community, if not the gaming industry.
<to be continued>
However, your foulness stands to object all of that, by taking down a larger half of the modding community with you. Community, which provides content for these games ever since the first day of Soldiers. Thats a good decade by now. Hundreds of thousands of man-hours went into creating all of those mods so far. Mods, that probably inspired you to start modding yourself. Some certainly did. But, it is well known in the community that QUALITY MODELLERS AND TEXTURERS are a rare and a valuable asset. Therefore not present in every mod team. However, what every mod team has is IDEAS. ORIGINAL IDEAS. Do you understand what an original idea means? You know, it's that desire that makes the people wanna mod. And they all do that for FREE. Yes, free. I've yet to see a mod which made material gain on itself. Do you know one? Pray, tell me if you do. Does the community want to be eviscerated like that? Community, from which you've emerged, you sad excuse for a modder? Seriously.
As Aekas said. You'd actually go to the extents of actually making not one but TWO videos, and go in an internet-jihad just to make a POINT THAT IS ALREADY MADE, ACCEPTED AND EXECUTED (months ago, for good measure)? Good heavens man, you should seek assistance before assistance finds you and they strap you a straitjacket.
Anyway, by doing all of that, you've proven yourself to be not worthy of the title "modder". You poor, poor soul. You've also probably killed off the chances of your team to actually make a mod that's going to be loved by the community. It may be good - Hell, I hope it's going to become GREAT... but what you just did will keep a bitter taste with it forever. A mod of a modhater.
The irony is on you, and you alone in this case, Kastrenzo.
However, you can atone for all of that. You should apologize to the community as soon as possible. You should delete the hate videos. You should, at the foremost, stop with this nonsense you're doing. You're bringing the community down.
Community still has a place for you. If you don't destroy it.
So, Kastrenzo. What's it gonna be?
To end this, I would like to state that this post is my personal opinion on the matter. As such, it does not represent the standpoint of my team. I alone am reponsible for it.
For himself,
~HrcAk47
i like his comments block on steam
Steamcommunity.com
it kinda.... tells everything about the person :D
Incase you weren't aware, I have a low tolerance for ********. And I also don't update things. That is nearly 2 years old
no, i like the style you talk with people, really .... cultural :D
It's a steam profile page, what do you want, a Bio of my life? Would you be interested in reading my Facebook or something too?
So I don't see why you're making a big deal about it. It's an online profile. Judging by your trollface avatar I wouldnt really draw many conclusions based off of an avatar or profile.
still, i'm not using strong language with people and ain't making racist not even funny jokes about kangaroo and British queen.
looks like you've scared him
I can be quite a scary person :3
No, sorry, You didn't scare me. Trying to act tough or important on the internet, that's a joke if there ever was such a thing. I just didn't get around to reading your essay because I have other things to tend to off the computer.
In fact I didn't read all of your ********, I stopped reading after you implied that the Shattered Lands mod was going after him. I am meerly the Audio manager for the mod. and every one on the team except for myself and Fenresianwolf Arent even around, Just because I'm a part of a mod team you automatically say that it's propaganda and attack ads.
I owe no apology, and I'm tired of wasting my time with fanboys and morons.
You can show this to as many people I don't care. Go **** yourself .
You aren't a white Knight, nor do I try to be. Mind your own business.
And furthermore, you said that was your personal opinion, do you know how hypocrital that sounds considering you and Vora_bat have been pinning everything I have said on the Shattered Lands team?
I love Irony.
Anyway, Professional developers are in contact with Moddb staff, and are doing their own investigation, and as it seems My video/evidence is only one of many things they have on him.
Peace Out
HrcAk47 i believe you've done your best, he's gone on strong language :)
>Trying to act tough or important on the internet, that's a joke if there ever was such a thing
oh, you amuse me so, young Matt.
Your profile says you're 20, that's assuming you aren't some nosepicking Middleschool kid lying about his age on the interwebs.
But are we really stooping down to age insults now? and when there is only a year between us? That's funny.
I love how people think their age entitle them to everything.
You are on the internet sir. That should be all I need to say.
oh, one last thing, as noble as your cause may be, I'm not going to take you seriously if you're going to defend the concept of Content theft, whether it be done by Vora, or anyone.
Regardless if it's used for a base/start in modding or not, It's illegal, it's of bad taste, and it's lazy.
As far as I'm concerned, you can use something to Develop your first items with, but if it's not your own creation, you have no right to release it
says the "sound engineer". You lulzy character, i bet you rip sounds from Youtube without giving credits for them. Why dont you make your sounds, huh?
AWH NO, I RIP MY SOUNDS FROM FPS BANANA DAWG.
Actually I modify pre-existing sounds from the Men of war Directory, use recording tools that I purchased years ago, and with that I record everything within reason, everything else like Gunfire is typically as I said Modified from Men of war, Audacity is a wonderful thing.
I really don't have to explain myself anyway, I'm not the one with a record of getting mods banned from this site.
Anyway, HRC, This is none of your concern, if you want to stick up for Vora Fill your boots chap, but I'm just going to treat you like Vora, which means I'm just going to ignore you aswell
I'm sure that little bit of information will fuel your Internet Ego for days. Adios Amigo
>ignores Vora
>ignores me
>Fills our, multiple, pages with spam
Good heavens, you are a strange person, now aren't you?
I dont know why I bothered with you anyway, you and Solistx fight with each other, You obviously have something against him and his mod, even if This IP Theft accusation never happened, you would have had something against me simply for supporting SL.
So it wasn't a big surprise that you'd come in raging at me and the mod team that I'm apart of, when you referred to "you people" so many times. Who are you talking to anyway, who are these people? because I don't see anyone else here other than the occasional random who drops a message somewhere.
Oh, weren't you, like, gone forever a couple of posts ago? And, like, ignoring me and Vora?
Feeling lonely in that world of yours?
@Kastrenzo - Im sorry but I beg to differ.