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Mike Pence Author
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

The article was so good, Ive decided to quote it's entirety.

Make no mistake: it’s payback time. In ordering up a “deep dive” into possible Russian interference in the election of Donald Trump, sore loser Barack Obama wants to delegitimize the real estate magnate’s win. His motive? Punishing Trump for the years the mogul spent publicly questioning whether Obama was an American citizen, which cast doubts on the legitimacy of his presidency. Ah, how sweet the revenge. And how pitiful.

President Obama has searched high and, increasingly, low, for the reasons he and Hillary Clinton lost the election. He has blamed Fox News, insufficient grass-roots campaigning by Hillary, “fake news”, and now has singled out Russian meddling for the loss of 194 of 207 counties that voted for him in either 2008 or 2012.

The suggestion is that Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win; the liberal media has hinted darkly that the president-elect and his campaign team have “ties” to the Russian head of state.

As most Americans review Trump’s defense and security picks, the notion that the new administration will go easy on our adversaries – including Russia – is laughable. Retired General James Mattis, whom Trump has nominated to head Defense, has described Russia’s annexation of Crimea as a “severe” threat, one underestimated by the Obama White House. Mattis is not to be trifled with.

The media has ignored the reality that Moscow’s possible hacking of DNC and Podesta’s emails were retaliation for Hillary Clinton’s assertions that Russian elections in 2011 were “rigged” – an accusation that infuriated Putin. When protests erupted in Russia over the election outcome, Putin blamed Clinton. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin said at the time. He accused then Secretary of State Clinton for giving “a signal” to demonstrators organized “with the support of the U.S. State Department…We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin said. Does this sound familiar? Turnabout is fair play, and Putin has made it clear that if we mess with his elections, he will mess with ours.

Obama knows this. Politico reported in a July piece entitled “Why Putin Hates Hillary” that the Russian leader’s anger about Clinton’s interference was “communicated directly to President Barack Obama.” Former administration officials involved with Russian policy say the Kremlin saw Clinton as taking a harder line against Russia – “reset” notwithstanding – than others in the White House. “And they say Putin sees Clinton as a forceful proponent of “regime change” policies that the Russian leader considers a grave threat to his own survival.”

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Mike Pence Author
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

That is why the Russians may have tried to undermine Hillary Clinton, not because they see Trump as an ally. Like most of the world, Moscow no doubt expected Clinton to win. Coming into office weakened by Putin’s meddling would have undoubtedly pleased Moscow no end.

Obama’s call for an investigation is transparently bogus. First, the CIA offers up only scant circumstantial evidence – evidence that even the New York Times admits “does not support firm judgements” -- to make the charge that Russia worked to favor Trump. The FBI isn’t even on board with the conclusion.

Second, everyone knows that no serious inquiry could possibly be completed by January 20, when Trump will be sworn in. The federal government operates with glacial pacing; Obama knows the report will likely never be completed, and so the issue of Russian hacking will hang like a cloud – like the “birther” rumors – over the Trump White House.

While muttering about how the need for “transparency” might inspire the investigation into the hacking, the Times et al ignore the reality: the emails released via WikiLeaks that outed cheating by the DNC in favor of Hillary Clinton, or showed how disrespectful her camp was of Catholics and average Americans, actually increased the transparency of the election. The United States should not tolerate cyberattacks from a foreign government; nor should we tolerate cheating in our politics.

Obama is still smarting from having put himself on the line during the campaign, telling the Black Congressional Caucus, for instance, “I will consider it a personal insult, an insult to my legacy, if this community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election.”

He made Hillary’s campaign all about him, but she lost anyway. That has to sting. Especially since Americans, in choosing Trump, also chose to undo most of Obama’s most precious accomplishments.

On the campaign trail, Trump made no secret of his desire to toss Obama’s climate agenda, his Iran deal and, most importantly, ObamaCare. In recent weeks, he has nominated cabinet officials who are well suited to carrying out those promises. Lofting Scott Pruit, the Oklahoma Attorney General, to the EPA: good-bye overreaching anti-fossil fuel regulations. Rep. Tom Price for HHS: so long ObamaCare. “Mad Dog” Mattis for Defense: the Iran deal is toast. For a president who has put such stock in his “legacy”, and who took office being compared to Abraham Lincoln, the erasure of his eight years must be intolerable.

What will be left of the Obama presidency, which chose to act unilaterally through executive actions and regulations rather than work through Congress? Not much.

Actually, with his embarrassing reluctance to shoulder any responsibility for the drubbing given Democrats over the past eight years, his legacy will begin with a very sour taste in the country’s mouth.


All in all? Obama seems more intent on blaming everything in the world, save for what screwed over his party this cycle to begin with. That being their disconnect with the American people. This election, was one for the forgotten men and women.

Give your own analysis as you wish.

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Kalga Creator
Kalga - - 5,739 comments

As someone who have been playing (as well as dicking around with the save games files) a lot of Victoria: Revolutions recently I'm slightly bemused that so many people are having problems with the real life version of "improve relations*" button, because that's pretty much the extent of what Russia has been doing.


*usually it's a gain of 10 points though sometimes it could be much more and it appears that Russia has hit the jackpot this year... again, actual effect has very little to do with the amount of effort put in.

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Headhunter128
Headhunter128 - - 5,145 comments

Note that the CIA and FBI AGREE that the hacks came from Russia, its simply to goals of the Russians they disagree on. No matter what, Russia interfered with an American election. Doesn't matter in favor of who, or for what reason, it deserves to be investigated. But I guess the narrative of the vindictive President Obama was too compelling a narrative to write in this article. The narrative is not at all ruined by how Obama have reacted in general to Trump becoming President-Elect. While a lot of highranking Democrats thought it to be the apocalypse, he kept a cool head and made preparations for Trumps entrance into the White House. He even made extra time to help guide Trump about his duties, routines and daily tasks as president. If he was out to get revenge, he wouldn't have done that.

Its funny that you accuse Obama of blaming everything on everyone else, yet the reverse is true for many others that love to blame Obama for everything. Blaming Obama for everything, whether justified or not have become so prevalent over the last 8 years that it became a meme. Lol

Obama was dealt a ****** hand when he became president and he did his very best to fix it. But because he couldn't magically make the debt disappear without first getting rid of the 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit Bush's administration handed him, he was handed the blame. 8 years later and opposition on almost all issues in congress this article asks why he used so many executive powers to get things through.
All I can think of is WTF? Everything I ever heard from the US during his term is "Congress refuses to work with Obama." Not the other way around. But sure that's the "Corporate and leftist biased media distorting the truth." Like most Americans I have talked to about the election and Trump gave a rats *** about the truth or facts, the moment someone is confronted with facts, they ignore me, change the subject or the most famous go to excuse "that is a leftist site, I can't trust anything it says."

I can fully understand most of peoples opinion son Hillary, but when it comes to Obama I think a lot of Americans are absolutely blind to the good things he have done. Shaving down the deficit by a Trillion Dollars among them. But oh no! He doubled the debt!!!!!" *Facedesk*. Lets not even go into the fearmongering myths that's been spouted about who owns said debt...

Apologies for the rant (don't worry, It'll be the only one I think. xD I work to much these days to argue unfortunately), Obama was not a perfect president, but he wasn't horrible either.

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Mike Pence Author
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

Upvoted because you give the side of the argument I often ignore. You are correct Obama has been more mature about Trump winning than many of his Democrat colleagues who've gone full ape since the election.

It was a ****** hand but there were still things he could've done better so there are valid criticisms. Part of why Congress refused to work with him on issues is because they disagree with "how" he intended to deal with those issues. My earlier points on Obamacare for example in the last discussion here. Of course not every obstruction was of that nature so there is some truth to their lack of cooperation.

Do remember Obama had 8 years in office to undue many of the spending habits Bush put into effect. If the debt doubled instead, and is destined to keep climbing then it's time to consider what really needs to be cut, cause obviously things that weren't essential before "like troops in Iraq" are essential now. We spent a trillion over there btw.

The blaming thing I believe is mandatory for politicians nowadays.

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Dead|Wing
Dead|Wing - - 3,063 comments

May I remind you all here that exactly zero proof has been provided to support the allegations of Russian involvement. They're banking on your ignorance and inability to use critical thinking, the same way they referred you to social media over the destruction of MH17.

The "reds under the bed" narrative is growing as stale as it is old. I'll also highlight the fact that Julian Assange and Wikileaks (the distributor of the information behind the extensive US Gov. corruption) has emphasized time and again that Russia had no involvement in the information release. The official allegations by the various intel agencies include that Russia hacked the RNC as well, but simply didn't release the information, therefore indirectly supporting Trump. This is an anecdotal fallacy, as the majority of the voters for Trump were certainly not voting for the Republicans. Trump used the Rhinos to get into office, but talk of a Republican coup de eta was there right the way through... If Russia had potentially damaging information on the RNC they would have released that as well, increasing the popular support for Trump, and pushing any other possible Republican alternative even further away from the White House.

Until definitive proof is presented I will treat the constant mewling from the US intelligence agencies as the usual manipulative lying.

Besides, I thought America was a powerful state actor... not a banana republic that a country can simply jump in and influence the election of... Or not?

I'll just leave this here: Youtube.com

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Mike Pence Author
Mike Pence - - 3,288 comments

The current evidence is "circumstantial", but in any case many don't care on the left as Ive seen plenty of comments from them calling Trump a puppet of Putin along with his cabinet picks. They are convinced Trump is Putin's long lost brother who is now President elect of the United States of America. They're runnin around like chickens with their heads cut off over it in total meltdown mode.

There is no "real" evidence actually pointing to Russia. But it doesn't really matter as the media has raised up a rumor and it'll stick to the Trump presidency regardless what is said. Lyin scum don't change overnight so I'm just counting on them getting more humiliated in the years to come. Trump winning was the ultimate insult to their coverage because they did everything possible to ensure he lost. Yet the vast majority of counties still voted for him and the congress and senate retained republican majorities.

Don't ever let anyone tell you American politics wasn't entertaining.

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